• POLLS-UPDATED

 #17410  by stonemd
 Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:53 am
Sagarin opponents
FU beats 213 and 191 soundly
Loses by 13 points total to 69 and 130

Weber beats 163 soundly
Loses by 12 points total to 65 and 106

Very similar resume
Stats poll FU #16
Weber #5 ?!???!???
 #17412  by MNORM
 Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:00 am
stonemd wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:53 am
Sagarin opponents
FU beats 213 and 191 soundly
Loses by 13 points total to 69 and 130

Weber beats 163 soundly
Loses by 12 points total to 65 and 106

Very similar resume
Stats poll FU #16
Weber #5 ?!???!???
It's week #4....give it time. SOS doesn't mean a whole lot at this point.
 #17511  by apaladin
 Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:53 am
gman wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:13 pm
No movement. Proof the voters have no respect for the SoCon. https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ches-poll/

Number 9 in Athlon Power Rankings. https://athlonsports.com/college-footba ... eek-4-2019
The Atlon poll is pretty good. They also have Kennesaw St. at #14, closer to where they should be.
 #17775  by furpop16
 Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:55 pm
gofurman wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 9:04 am
stonemd wrote:
Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:59 am
Athlon poll #9

https://athlonsports.com/college-footba ... eek-4-2019
Stone, you are correct. That's neat to see but unfortunately Athlon (where we rank highest) doesn't get any looks from committee as I understand it. It's either COACHES or STATS
Good press never hurts. Athlon poll (Week 5): #7
https://athlonsports.com/college-footba ... eek-5-2019
 #17785  by AstroDin
 Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:26 pm
We still have a lot of season to play - we keep winning we control our destiny — poll rankeing be damned.
Win out and we're in line for a seed.
 #17786  by Paul C
 Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:35 pm
I TRY not to get too worked up over polls in September but how does this make any sense???

10. Illinois St (3-1)
last week #14
result BYE

11. Central Arkansas (3-1)
last week #15
result BYE

14. Furman (3-2)
last week #16
defeated ETSU 17-10

Illinois St and Cent Ark each jump 4 spots as a reward for not playing, and we move up 1 spot with a win over last season SoCon Co-Champ.....
 #17790  by gofurman
 Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:06 pm
Paul C wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:35 pm
I TRY not to get too worked up over polls in September but how does this make any sense???

10. Illinois St (3-1)
last week #14
result BYE

11. Central Arkansas (3-1)
last week #15
result BYE

14. Furman (3-2)
last week #16
defeated ETSU 17-10

Illinois St and Cent Ark each jump 4 spots as a reward for not playing, and we move up 1 spot with a win over last season SoCon Co-Champ.....
singularly it seems wrong BUT its the slot voting which in this case I can abide by and see the logic:

Using STATS poll
http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?week=05&div=1aa

Here is an example, Montana at 18 killed UC Davis who was ##4 at Davis !!. So Montana (as they should) jumped us - I don't think anyone would argue that as they killed a top 5 team... and they jumped over many teams as they are now number 8.. but UC Davis fell to a spot just above us at 12. While the two teams you mention were just high enough (just barely above us) to benefit from that fall by UC Davis. We were not as was no one below us - so we lost a spot by Montana jumping and we didn't quite benefit from UC Davis fallin'. Same thing w UNI losing to Weber State. Weber State is top 5 and moved to number 4 by beating a good UNI team. That doesn't affect us at all. But UNI losing that game took them from 9 down to.. you guessed it - 13. Just above us. So again the two teams you mention benefit from being slightly higher than us and get the bump we did not.

That's why I am so glad we started in top 25 this year. We have gotten similar bumps that those below us have not. I get your point but this week I think the polls are pretty right on. Teams fell as they should we just weren't QUITE high enough to benefit.

In summary, number 4 fell to 12 and 9 fell to 13 and that's the difference. Had we been ranked 12th we would have moved up 4 spots instead of 2 in STATS.


To this point KSU won and DROPPED a spot. because they beat an NAIA and Villanova just jumped right over them by beating top 20 Maine. At least we rose two or so...

Also, in BOTH STATS and COACHES we benefited from Nicholls losing to an FBS (they dropped about 4) which is nice for us but possibly a little harsh on them. granted, they lost 24-3 or so to Texas State (who is like Georgia State as they played to OT)
 #17791  by gman
 Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:26 pm
Paul C wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:35 pm
I TRY not to get too worked up over polls in September but how does this make any sense???

10. Illinois St (3-1)
last week #14
result BYE

11. Central Arkansas (3-1)
last week #15
result BYE

14. Furman (3-2)
last week #16
defeated ETSU 17-10

Illinois St and Cent Ark each jump 4 spots as a reward for not playing, and we move up 1 spot with a win over last season SoCon Co-Champ.....
The voters have no respect for SoCon football. One slip up and we are out, unless we win the conference.
 #17798  by gofurman
 Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:44 pm
gman wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:26 pm
Paul C wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:35 pm
I TRY not to get too worked up over polls in September but how does this make any sense???

10. Illinois St (3-1)
last week #14
result BYE

11. Central Arkansas (3-1)
last week #15
result BYE

14. Furman (3-2)
last week #16
defeated ETSU 17-10

Illinois St and Cent Ark each jump 4 spots as a reward for not playing, and we move up 1 spot with a win over last season SoCon Co-Champ.....
The voters have no respect for SoCon football. One slip up and we are out, unless we win the conference.
Most think they will take two teams like last year when you read the articles.. but yes, part of it is conference perception. Right now Furman is the only ranked team. Citadel, Samford and Woff gettin' votes but not top 25
 #17799  by DungeonRealm
 Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:58 pm
Citadel was top 25 until they laid an egg in Birmingham, let's take care of our business
 #17805  by gofurman
 Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:03 pm
DungeonRealm wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:58 pm
Citadel was top 25 until they laid an egg in Birmingham, let's take care of our business
they certainly choked in Birminghm.. but that does get Samford more credit as we come into that game. Samford is viewed as top 40 now (ORV)
 #17810  by gofurman
 Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:28 pm
no jinx. But I think both the SoCon champ (captain obvious) and a 8/9 win Furman team would get in as We would be ranked (that's the advantage of rankings pre-season!) top 20 at 8 or 9 wins. No way they turn back a top 20 rankd, 8-4 team (that was CH thought in scheduling POINT) or two SoCon co-champs as they took 2 last year it's just we had the ol' 6-4 record
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