Baseball Season Starts Tomorrow

[Affirm]

Confirming what I have said before baseball gives mid-majors the best chance to compete with the big boys. A couple of examples already: UNCG 4 Wake Forest 0. Upstate 10 Boston College 7. There are many others.

Apaladin writes many good and interesting and helpful things on the UFFP, but affirm does not like apaladin's incessant comments about baseball and usually ignores them.
Saying that baseball gives mid-majors the best chance to compete with the big boys is irrelevant. He names a couple of examples and says there are many others. He does not say how many others there actually are, so who knows how many such scores there are in a season, compared to the total number of games mid-majors have against "the big boys". It may be a relatively small number. A D1 team can play up to 56 games in a regular season, so a lot of games have to be scheduled within approximately the same number of weeks as are in the football and basketball seasons. Big boys have to schedule nearby games (such as WFU vs. UNCG) in many cases because of all the travel that would be involved otherwise, expensive in both time and money for the visiting team when the game is far away.
The percentage of mid-major wins against big boys may be no higher than the percentage is for FCS wins vs FBS in football or the percentage of mig-majors wins vs major conference teams in basketball; and if it is higher, it is not much higher and can usually be explained because the big boys are needing to rest pitchers for more important games. Basically the big boys in baseball do not even take the mid-major opponents very seriously, because the big boys have so many subequent chances to bounce back in upcoming imporrtant games. Most importantly, when a mid-major team does beat a big boy team in baseball, very few people even know about it, it is not big news, and it is essentially irrelevant. When a mid-major beats a big boy in basketball, people know and people remember. The same is equally or even more true when it happens in football. In baseball, no one really cares. It is merely an interesting but trivial and irrelevant occurence that very few people even notice. A mid-major team can somehow beat a big boy in baseball and be terrible the rest of the season, when it really matters. The best chance to compete? What does that even mean? To compete in one single basically meaningless game? "To compete against the 'big boys'" is no reason for wanting Furman to reinstate baseball, all things considered.

The baseball team had been to the same number of post season NCAA tournaments as the basketball team has over the last 40 years…….One

Actually baseball has been to 2 NCAA tournaments in the last 34 years. 1991 and 2005.

Compared to the NCAA basketball tournament, the NCAA baseball tournament gets a very small amount of nationwide attention.
Relatively very few Furman people even know about the 1991 and 2005 appearances.
But affirm wishes to now permanently and completely resign from this silly “debate”. Enough. Actually it was enough 5 years ago.

[apaladin]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

[Roundball]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

Actually, you are really only debating with yourself in this subject.

[apaladin]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

Actually, you are really only debating with yourself in this subject.

Really??? So all the other posts don’t count?? Many are in favor of bringing baseball back, sad you are on the wrong side. There was a recent facebook post about bringing badeball back at FU. Over 500 replies, all in favor.

[Affirm]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

False.

[Roundball]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

Actually, you are really only debating with yourself in this subject.

Really??? So all the other posts don’t count?? Many are in favor of bringing baseball back, sad you are on the wrong side. There was a recent facebook post about bringing badeball back at FU. Over 500 replies, all in favor.

I would love to see baseball back at Furman, when it is the right time, which will be decided by the President and the Trustees. Until then, you are just blowing in the wind with your negative commentary.

[apaladin]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

Actually, you are really only debating with yourself in this subject.

Really??? So all the other posts don’t count?? Many are in favor of bringing baseball back, sad you are on the wrong side. There was a recent facebook post about bringing badeball back at FU. Over 500 replies, all in favor.

I would love to see baseball back at Furman, when it is the right time, which will be decided by the President and the Trustees. Until then, you are just blowing in the wind with your negative commentary.

Can you show me any negative commentary?

[Roundball]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

Actually, you are really only debating with yourself in this subject.

Really??? So all the other posts don’t count?? Many are in favor of bringing baseball back, sad you are on the wrong side. There was a recent facebook post about bringing badeball back at FU. Over 500 replies, all in favor.

I would love to see baseball back at Furman, when it is the right time, which will be decided by the President and the Trustees. Until then, you are just blowing in the wind with your negative commentary.

Can you show me any negative commentary?

Go back and read your negative posts toward Elizabeth Davis and the Administration for the last few years. I started to cut and paste your comments, but figured out that would be an all day job.

[apaladin]

So we are going back years, not this thread, gotcha!

[Jasper]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

Actually, you are really only debating with yourself in this subject.

Really??? So all the other posts don’t count?? Many are in favor of bringing baseball back, sad you are on the wrong side. There was a recent facebook post about bringing badeball back at FU. Over 500 replies, all in favor.

I would love to see baseball back at Furman, when it is the right time, which will be decided by the President and the Trustees. Until then, you are just blowing in the wind with your negative commentary.

Can you show me any negative commentary?

Maybe if some of those 500 people actually showed up a game when we had a baseball team, we would still have one. Have you ever actually spoken with ED to hear her reasoning for dropping baseball?

[apaladin]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

Actually, you are really only debating with yourself in this subject.

Really??? So all the other posts don’t count?? Many are in favor of bringing baseball back, sad you are on the wrong side. There was a recent facebook post about bringing badeball back at FU. Over 500 replies, all in favor.

I would love to see baseball back at Furman, when it is the right time, which will be decided by the President and the Trustees. Until then, you are just blowing in the wind with your negative commentary.

Can you show me any negative commentary?

Maybe if some of those 500 people actually showed up a game when we had a baseball team, we would still have one. Have you ever actually spoken with ED to hear her reasoning for dropping baseball?

So all of these other college teams have huge attendance? Upstate, Wofford, Limestone, Anderson, Citadel, CofC, Winthrop, CSU etc. etc. have baseball because they get big crowds? I have been to a couple of Upstate games and they had maybe 100 peeps. WC has 150-200 tops. Practically every other college in SC has baseball but FU. Yes I have reached out to ED a couple of times and as expected received no response. Imagine that.

[Roundball]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

Actually, you are really only debating with yourself in this subject.

Really??? So all the other posts don’t count?? Many are in favor of bringing baseball back, sad you are on the wrong side. There was a recent facebook post about bringing badeball back at FU. Over 500 replies, all in favor.

I would love to see baseball back at Furman, when it is the right time, which will be decided by the President and the Trustees. Until then, you are just blowing in the wind with your negative commentary.

Can you show me any negative commentary?

Maybe if some of those 500 people actually showed up a game when we had a baseball team, we would still have one. Have you ever actually spoken with ED to hear her reasoning for dropping baseball?

So all of these other college teams have huge attendance? Upstate, Wofford, Limestone, Anderson, Citadel, CofC, Winthrop, CSU etc. etc. have baseball because they get big crowds? I have been to a couple of Upstate games and they had maybe 100 peeps. WC has 150-200 tops. Practically every other college in SC has baseball but FU. Yes I have reached out to ED a couple of times and as expected received no response. Imagine that.

The entire administration and coaching staffs know aPaladin. I can imagine why you got no response.

[Affirm]

C’mon Affirm, just because you are losing the debate no need to resign from it.

Actually, you are really only debating with yourself in this subject.

Really??? So all the other posts don’t count?? Many are in favor of bringing baseball back, sad you are on the wrong side. There was a recent facebook post about bringing badeball back at FU. Over 500 replies, all in favor.

I would love to see baseball back at Furman, when it is the right time, which will be decided by the President and the Trustees. Until then, you are just blowing in the wind with your negative commentary.

Can you show me any negative commentary?

Go back and read your negative posts toward Elizabeth Davis and the Administration for the last few years. I started to cut and paste your comments, but figured out that would be an all day job.

Roundball is correct.

[apaladin]

Again just slams against me which is fine but still no one can come up with a good excuse why FU does not have baseball because there isn’t one.

[Roundball]

Again just slams against me which is fine but still no one can come up with a good excuse why FU does not have baseball because there isn’t one.

From The State article that is almost 5 years old. "A closer look: Why did Furman cut baseball, and could it be brought back?"

Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/sports/other-s ... ink=cpy"In the case of baseball, unfortunately we lose $1 million a year. In the case of men’s lacrosse we were losing $1.7 (million) a year. The majority of that is tuition. A strong part of that is salaries and to operate at a competitive level. In 2019 we only had $8,000 in ticket sales for baseball. You’re talking about an institutional investment in sports that’s intended to provide a great experience for your student-athletes and your alumni. But it comes with a cost that’s a pretty substantial cost."


Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/sports/other-s ... rylink=cpy

I know this lengthy conversation with Jason Donnelly will not satisfy you, but it does answer your question as to why. Read it, accept it, and move on. It's time to end the attacks against Furman University.