• NCAA talks expanding hoops tourney to 72 or 76

 #95466  by FU Hoopla
 Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:09 pm
NCAA president Charlie Baker is "bullish" on the prospect of the NCAA basketball tournaments expanding to 72 or 76 teams in the near future.

Baker said he has been having productive conversations with television partners and members of the NCAA's basketball committees on expanding from the current 68-team bracket. He said the NCAA would have to make a decision to move forward by the end of this year's March Madness in order to implement the expanded field for the 2026 tournament.

He said the tournament is unlikely to grow any bigger than 76 because of the limited window they have to schedule games between the time when conference championships end and coverage of the Masters begins.

"I'm bullish on the conversations we've had about going to 72 or 76, and I think the committees are willing to consider that, but I don't think it's going to be anything beyond that," Baker said after speaking about the future of the NCAA at a conference hosted by Sports Business Journal.

The NCAA's basketball committees presented proposals to expand the tournament last June after several major conferences and leaders such as SEC commissioner Greg Sankey publicly pushed to create more at-large bids for their schools.

"We are giving away highly competitive opportunities for automatic qualifiers [from smaller leagues], and I think that pressure is going to rise as we have more competitive basketball leagues at the top end because of expansion," Sankey told ESPN last March.

Baker told reporters his focus in the coming year is to implement changes made to the NCAA through the pending, industry-shifting antitrust settlement that will allow schools to start paying players directly. He said he expects to begin working in January on the details of a system that will provide more freedom for the major conferences to form rules that are better suited to their economic reality.

When asked if the NCAA's experience in organizing March Madness could provide any help to the College Football Playoff -- which is not operated by the NCAA -- in its selection process, Baker said that some disappointment in the selection process is inevitable.

"There are always going to be people who thought it worked exactly the way it should and people who think otherwise," Baker said.

He added that one of the main differences between the two selection processes for the two tournaments is the College Football Playoff's weekly release of new rankings during the second half of the regular season. The NCAA selection committee shares limited ranking information only once before making its final decisions about tournament seeding.

"I can't figure out in my own head if it generates excitement and is interesting to people or if it just makes people crazy as the season goes on to have this thing constantly move," Baker said.
 #95467  by FU Hoopla
 Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:10 pm
Thoughts?

Do we think this will help the good Mid-Majors like Furman down the line (even if it gets 1 or 2 an at-large it helps)

Or do we think they will still just give us (Mid-Majors) 'the shaft' like always? lol
 #95470  by FU Hoopla
 Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:19 pm
An interesting thought.........

18% of all FCS Football schools make the playoffs every year (24 of 129)

It seems that DI Basketball is headed toward having nearly 400 members in the future, so 72 of 400 is also 18%
 #95475  by apaladin
 Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:42 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:10 pm
Thoughts?

Do we think this will help the good Mid-Majors like Furman down the line (even if it gets 1 or 2 an at-large it helps)

Or do we think they will still just give us (Mid-Majors) 'the shaft' like always? lol
No it won’t help mid-majors just the big boys, any team with a .500 record from those conferences has a good chance. More teams means more money for the big boys. That’s why you rarely see them give an at-large to a deserving non P4.
They give it to a team that is under .500 in their conference. They are not in business to give away a bid(money).
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 #95476  by FU Hoopla
 Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:16 pm
apaladin wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 2:42 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:10 pm
Thoughts?

Do we think this will help the good Mid-Majors like Furman down the line (even if it gets 1 or 2 an at-large it helps)

Or do we think they will still just give us (Mid-Majors) 'the shaft' like always? lol
No it won’t help mid-majors just the big boys, any team with a .500 record from those conferences has a good chance. More teams means more money for the big boys. That’s why you rarely see them give an at-large to a deserving non P4.
They give it to a team that is under .500 in their conference. They are not in business to give away a bid(money).


So you think Zero of the 4 to 8 new bids will go to mid-majors, ever?
 #95566  by FU Hoopla
 Sat Dec 14, 2024 7:41 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 3:18 pm
NCAA First Four history (since 2011), some notable Mid-Majors have been given a bid before
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Four
For example:
VCU
Belmont
UAB
Iona
St. Mary's
La Salle
Middle Tennessee
Wichita St.
Drake
St. Bonaventure

So this could actually help schools like FU out a bit with giving more of a shot (more openings to fill) at an at-large in the future..............
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 #95585  by Louis Tully
 Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:31 am
There was a contributor here who proposed that by adding 1 weekend they could expand to 256.
 #95592  by Affirm
 Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:43 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:11 pm
Louis Tully wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:31 am
There was a contributor here who proposed that by adding 1 weekend they could expand to 256.
Well if that would be the case, why even have a regular season :lol: :lol:
I guess to determine who will be assigned as #256, #255, #254, etc., etc., #3, #2, and #1 in the bracket.
 #95608  by FU Hoopla
 Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:55 pm
Affirm wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:43 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 1:11 pm
Louis Tully wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:31 am
There was a contributor here who proposed that by adding 1 weekend they could expand to 256.
Well if that would be the case, why even have a regular season :lol: :lol:
I guess to determine who will be assigned as #256, #255, #254, etc., etc., #3, #2, and #1 in the bracket.

Right now KenPom has #256 Eastern Washington at 2-9 and #255 Grambling St. at 2-6, you think they should be in a national postseason tournament?
 #95653  by FU Hoopla
 Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:45 am
Currently SoCon is rated 13th out of 33 leagues...

We are seated right behind Ivy, WCC and MVC....
With a couple moves to strengthen the league from a Basketball standpoint I think we can jump those leagues and become a Top 10 league...

That would put us up there with Mountain West, A10 and American and make the SoCon potentially a multi bid league.....

The league is not far away at all folks!

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