Transfer Portal Thread

[The Jackal]

In terms of speed, I can think of maybe a small handful of guys in FCS competition where I thought we just couldn't run with a guy in the open field - Davon Fowlkes (App State), Jayson Foster (GSU), Randy Moss (Marshall), and Demond Reid (WCU) come to mind.

By and large, we hold up fine in terms of speed.

I also don't worry much about having a more mobile QB. Plenty of teams do just fine on offense without the QB taking off.

[Afurmanfan]

I came to Furman on a partial scholarship, and one reason was i ran a 4.9 as a running back. I was pretty stout but not real fast.
My sophomore year I ran 2 4.6s in the pre camp test and stayed there the next 3 years. I was not able to ever get a 4.5, but speed was now an asset for me.
Great strides can be made between being 18 years old and 19 or 20- big changes.
Once again, we should all stay inside our circle of competence.
That is as nice as i can say it.

[gofurman]

In terms of speed, I can think of maybe a small handful of guys in FCS competition where I thought we just couldn't run with a guy in the open field - Davon Fowlkes (App State), Jayson Foster (GSU), Randy Moss (Marshall), and Demond Reid (WCU) come to mind.

By and large, we hold up fine in terms of speed.

I also don't worry much about having a more mobile QB. Plenty of teams do just fine on offense without the QB taking off.

Terrel Owen’s ran a 4.38 ( !!!!!! ) at 48 years old. FORTY EIGHT years old. I doubt we kept up with him. Don’t know. Don’t recall


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[furmandad]

After watching how well the Georgia Tech QB ran the ball last night, and watching Clemson and South Carolina QB’s run/escape so well today, an athletically talented QB that can move creates fits for defenses.

[Afurmanfan]

Is like having 12 men on offense.
Tyler was a nightmare for our opponents.

[gofurman]

After watching how well the Georgia Tech QB ran the ball last night, and watching Clemson and South Carolina QB’s run/escape so well today, an athletically talented QB that can move creates fits for defenses.

This. SO MUCH THIS. Sure some teams “do fine” without an athletic running QB. But they are overcoming the deficit. It’s 10 on offense vs 11 on defense when your QB only drops back to throw. If he can run (see Gamecocks winning play!!!) it’s 11 vs 11 and forces either a spy and thus a “wasted” defender or a ton of pressure on a defense. It’s an extra thing to account for on the defense. One more thing to worry about.

A QB who will take off creates tremendous problems for the D. It’s part of the reason USC (Gamecocks) have 8:wins now in the SEC !!!

[The Jackal]

I don't stress much about this.

Georgia Tech essentially runs a modernized single wing offense. Sure, the QB can run. But in that offense, the QB acts as a running back who throws.

King also takes a lot of hits. He's missed chunks of several season over his career with injuries. That's the risk you take with that offense - the QB is going to get banged around. If you recall, Tyler Huff also missed several critical games with injuries.

If that was the offense our coaches are trying to run, that's not the type of player they are recruiting. My guess is we'd rather have a QB that can move around a bit, but is not looking to be a heavy run threat. Remember, Trey Hedden ran track in high school. I'm sure he can run, he may just not be asked to.

[gofurman]

I don't stress much about this.

Georgia Tech essentially runs a modernized single wing offense. Sure, the QB can run. But in that offense, the QB acts as a running back who throws.

King also takes a lot of hits. He's missed chunks of several season over his career with injuries. That's the risk you take with that offense - the QB is going to get banged around. If you recall, Tyler Huff also missed several critical games with injuries.

If that was the offense our coaches are trying to run, that's not the type of player they are recruiting. My guess is we'd rather have a QB that can move around a bit, but is not looking to be a heavy run threat. Remember, Trey Hedden ran track in high school. I'm sure he can run, he may just not be asked to.

True. But our 2 best years in the past 15 years we had a great running QB. I don’t think that’s coincidence. Just a thought

[The Jackal]

I don't stress much about this.

Georgia Tech essentially runs a modernized single wing offense. Sure, the QB can run. But in that offense, the QB acts as a running back who throws.

King also takes a lot of hits. He's missed chunks of several season over his career with injuries. That's the risk you take with that offense - the QB is going to get banged around. If you recall, Tyler Huff also missed several critical games with injuries.

If that was the offense our coaches are trying to run, that's not the type of player they are recruiting. My guess is we'd rather have a QB that can move around a bit, but is not looking to be a heavy run threat. Remember, Trey Hedden ran track in high school. I'm sure he can run, he may just not be asked to.

True. But our 2 best years in the past 15 years we had a great running QB. I don’t think that’s coincidence. Just a thought

The 41 seniors helped too.

[AllTimeFU]

[FUwolfpacker]

Good luck to Hicks and congrats on earning his degree from Furman! Not sure his running style fits what we're trying to do right now, so probably a good move for him. Being from Texas, maybe he wants to get back closer to home.

So as of now we have Grant Robinson (hasn't looked quite like himself since the injury last year), Jayquan Smith (coming off what will be at least 1.5 years of not playing), Gavin Hall (I think he's going to be very good in time), and incoming freshman CJ Nettles. Wouldn't be surprised to see us bring in other RB unless the coaches feel really good about one of the PWOs.

[apaladin]

Still need at least one fullback type. Roberto type that doesn’t go down easily.

[FUwolfpacker]

Still need at least one fullback type. Roberto type that doesn’t go down easily.

If we're mostly going to be an outside zone run team, then guys who are best suited for north-south run games aren't at a premium. I'm not sure that was Hicks forte. Roberto was probably really under appreciated. He had the speed and enough shiftiness to run some of that but could still bang around inside the tackles. But I do agree that our RBs did not do a great job of making the first guy miss. Honestly, I think that's at least part of the reason why we saw a lot more 0-3 yard runs instead of 5-8 yard runs. There were failures all around in the run game, but sometimes we had it blocked up well and the RB didn't take care of the one guy he was responsible for in that outside zone run scheme (if I understand the concept correctly).

As far as a fullback goes, I believe Furman has mostly used someone like Jeremiah Jackson when we've gone to that look. I know Hicks blocked some in two back formations, but I think we spend the majority of our time in a single back look now.

[FUATT]

No surprise Myion is out. That had been rumored. I think he has his degree and the lack of quality graduate school options makes it hard to hold some guys in that situation.

I would not be surprised if Grant goes too, his carries declined over the year.

We will roll with Jayquan, Gavin, the Everhart kid and I think Nettles will see the field. I talked to him and his family in the airport after the Wofford game and like them very much.

[FUATT]

Also, of interest, rumor is that Clemson might be interested in beaming up the Citadel Punter. He helped keep them in the game against us and I'd be happy to see him in Orange. He led the SoCon in punting and he averaged 47.3 against us with 2 inside the 20 and a long of 65. Good riddance if he goes.