Changing times ...

[cavedweller2]

I didn’t mind girls leaving the parties with football players. There were plenty left that thought dorks like me were good enough after drinking all that stolen keg beer. In my experience it was the fraternity guys that were arrogant dicks. Not all but enough to notice. I don’t know but the older I get the more I think my heaven will be like Woodwinds ‘81 - ‘84.

[Furmanoid]

I’m sorry we were so mean to the football players. You’re right, we were all jealous of FB players access to those awesome Furman babes. We should have given you those damn kegs, but we were insensitive. It was our fault, our own most grievous fault.

I can only confirm that FuBear was a dickhead at keg parties as he held one at our apartment even after I voted no; because the next day was my first day serving in the army reserve. I actually nodded off during my duty.
My wood cabinet Jenson speakers were played so loud that they vibrated off the shelf, crash and broke.

See there. The lack of respect you got at Furman is all FUBeAR’s fault. Glad it’s all out in the open now.

[Affirm]

Article appearing Monday, June 10. 2024, by Rick Seltzer in The Chronicle talks about the plan to save small Division I athletics.
"As the biggest athletic programs lean into a burgeoning pay-for-play era, smaller athletic departments are dipping back into the amateurism well for ideas that might save them from this brave new world….
"Division I colleges without major football programs have the most to lose in a brewing legal storm. They’ll pay into a proposed $2.75-billion antitrust settlement if it’s approved, and they might soon have to negotiate with unionized athletes, but they lack the revenue potential enjoyed by the powerhouses that play on autumn Saturdays during national television windows.
"[The] ... new pitch is amateurism, revisited. Athletic directors and athletes in the two less-lucrative Division I subdivisions have assembled a proposal…
"The new plan is in a feedback phase. It was due to go before the annual convention of the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics on Sunday, but no vote was scheduled."

[sluggo]

Article appearing Monday, June 10. 2024, by Rick Seltzer in The Chronicle talks about the plan to save small Division I athletics.
"As the biggest athletic programs lean into a burgeoning pay-for-play era, smaller athletic departments are dipping back into the amateurism well for ideas that might save them from this brave new world….
"Division I colleges without major football programs have the most to lose in a brewing legal storm. They’ll pay into a proposed $2.75-billion antitrust settlement if it’s approved, and they might soon have to negotiate with unionized athletes, but they lack the revenue potential enjoyed by the powerhouses that play on autumn Saturdays during national television windows.
"[The] ... new pitch is amateurism, revisited. Athletic directors and athletes in the two less-lucrative Division I subdivisions have assembled a proposal…
"The new plan is in a feedback phase. It was due to go before the annual convention of the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics on Sunday, but no vote was scheduled."

I hear that; but it's like trying to "unring the bell".
Once schools started selling tickets and getting TV money, while paying coaches millions, the bell was rung.

The only way to have amateur sports again is to cap staff pay, cap ticket sales, and no TV.
Basically, like high school.
Players can't demand money that is not there.

When I played, I was against players being paid; but things changed a lot since then.
Coaches are being paid much more and players seem to be exploited in a muti-billion dollar industry.
I started to feel like the schools were pimps and the players were street hoes.

[Affirm]

Article appearing Monday, June 10. 2024, by Rick Seltzer in The Chronicle talks about the plan to save small Division I athletics.
"As the biggest athletic programs lean into a burgeoning pay-for-play era, smaller athletic departments are dipping back into the amateurism well for ideas that might save them from this brave new world….
"Division I colleges without major football programs have the most to lose in a brewing legal storm. They’ll pay into a proposed $2.75-billion antitrust settlement if it’s approved, and they might soon have to negotiate with unionized athletes, but they lack the revenue potential enjoyed by the powerhouses that play on autumn Saturdays during national television windows.
"[The] ... new pitch is amateurism, revisited. Athletic directors and athletes in the two less-lucrative Division I subdivisions have assembled a proposal…
"The new plan is in a feedback phase. It was due to go before the annual convention of the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics on Sunday, but no vote was scheduled."

I hear that; but it's like trying to "unring the bell".
Once schools started selling tickets and getting TV money, while paying coaches millions, the bell was rung.

The only way to have amateur sports again is to cap staff pay, cap ticket sales, and no TV.
Basically, like high school.
Players can't demand money that is not there.

When I played, I was against players being paid; but things changed a lot since then.
Coaches are being paid much more and players seem to be exploited in a muti-billion dollar industry.
I started to feel like the schools were pimps and the players were street hoes.

Yes, I understand what you say, EXCEPT, I have to ask - IS what YOU say actually applicable certainly mostly to the FBS schools, but NOT applicable necessarily to the Division 1 - AA (such as Furman, Mercer, ETSU, Citadel, Abilene. Christian, etc.) and the Division 1 - AAA (such as UNC-G, Winthrop, CofC, Belmont, Radford, etc.) schools?
The article refers to a proposed plan applicable to I-AA and I-AAA.

[sluggo]

Article appearing Monday, June 10. 2024, by Rick Seltzer in The Chronicle talks about the plan to save small Division I athletics.
"As the biggest athletic programs lean into a burgeoning pay-for-play era, smaller athletic departments are dipping back into the amateurism well for ideas that might save them from this brave new world….
"Division I colleges without major football programs have the most to lose in a brewing legal storm. They’ll pay into a proposed $2.75-billion antitrust settlement if it’s approved, and they might soon have to negotiate with unionized athletes, but they lack the revenue potential enjoyed by the powerhouses that play on autumn Saturdays during national television windows.
"[The] ... new pitch is amateurism, revisited. Athletic directors and athletes in the two less-lucrative Division I subdivisions have assembled a proposal…
"The new plan is in a feedback phase. It was due to go before the annual convention of the National Association of Collegiate Directors of Athletics on Sunday, but no vote was scheduled."

I hear that; but it's like trying to "unring the bell".
Once schools started selling tickets and getting TV money, while paying coaches millions, the bell was rung.

The only way to have amateur sports again is to cap staff pay, cap ticket sales, and no TV.
Basically, like high school.
Players can't demand money that is not there.

When I played, I was against players being paid; but things changed a lot since then.
Coaches are being paid much more and players seem to be exploited in a muti-billion dollar industry.
I started to feel like the schools were pimps and the players were street hoes.

Yes, I understand what you say, EXCEPT, I have to ask - IS what YOU say actually applicable certainly mostly to the FBS schools, but NOT applicable necessarily to the Division 1 - AA (such as Furman, Mercer, ETSU, Citadel, Abilene. Christian, etc.) and the Division 1 - AAA (such as UNC-G, Winthrop, CofC, Belmont, Radford, etc.) schools?
The article refers to a proposed plan applicable to I-AA and I-AAA.

Bottom line is that they all sell tickets and have ESPN deals.
Making exemptions for those who don't make 10+ million is a double standard.
Broke pimps get the same jail time as rich ones.

[FUTex]

I agree Sluggo, but pimpin' ain't easy. I would love to be the stable of Big C Daddy Hendrix. I'd work that track.

[Stumpy]

OK my last sentence was mean.

"Mean"? It was more like comedy.
At least you admit you had some "dislike" for footballers.
We didn't act like dicks; we just left with all the chicks.

So you guys were all dicks with chicks?

[Stumpy]

OK my last sentence was mean.

"Mean"? It was more like comedy.
At least you admit you had some "dislike" for footballers.
We didn't act like dicks; we just left with all the chicks.

So you guys were all dicks with chicks?

[Affirm]

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[sluggo]

You can learn some things on here …
You can seek and find some good discussion on here …

hehehe.

[Davemeister]

Can't speak for the rest of you but I prefer chicks without dicks.

[FUBeAR]

Can't speak for the rest of you but I prefer chicks without dicks.

Inclusive not!

[Sad Din]

Speaking of changing times... anyone notice how hot it is? Imagine what it will be like in August.

Anyway, its not gonna get any cooler and practice will become more challenging. Without an indoor or at least covered facility, does this put practice before 630 am or after 830 PM?

Wonder if this makes a new facility a gotta have vs nice to have? When it comes to player safety, should be a priority

Thoughts?

[apaladin]

That would be nice but FU has been practicing FB for over 100 years without AC so don’t see it happening. Do any SoCon teams have an indoor facility? I would guess not.