• '23-24 Bracketology

 #71900  by FU Hoopla
 Fri May 19, 2023 1:09 pm
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story ... redictions

How is it decided which tourney sites get to host which seeds?
For example Charlotte, how do they decide what seeds play there?

If we were fortunate to win the SoCon and get placed there just imagine how many fans/students we could get there, would be awesome!
 #71906  by tya1
 Fri May 19, 2023 5:32 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 1:09 pm
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story ... redictions

How is it decided which tourney sites get to host which seeds?
For example Charlotte, how do they decide what seeds play there?

If we were fortunate to win the SoCon and get placed there just imagine how many fans/students we could get there, would be awesome!
There are a few guidelines that they use. Every tournament site has a host team. If the host team makes the tournament they are not allowed to play their own games at the site they host. Teams are also not supposed to play at facilities they use during the regular season. I think there is an exception if the site was one that also was the site of a conference tournament. ACC teams have often been assigned to the Greensboro Coliseum in years the ACC Tournament was held there because it wasn't the home court during the regular season for the ACC teams. They try to keep teams reasonably close to home but it doesn't always work out that way. SDSU was far from home this year.

The top four seeds are considered protected seeds and are usually sent to early round sites nearest their campuses. This is sometimes flexible, there can be conflicts. The committee also wants to spread some of the higher seeds around a bit for balance. They don't want to bunch all the top teams into the same regions. A few years back they stated using the "pod" system. Teams in a pod can be part of a region that may be far from where the games are actually played. This year Furman,Virginia, Charleston, and San Diego State were part of a "pod" that played in Orlando and the winner advanced to the South regional in Louisville. Duke, Oral Roberts, Tennessee, and Louisiana were in a "pod" that also played in Orlando but Duke won the "pod" to advance to the East Regional played in New York City.

There are other considerations too. For example, they avoid matching up teams that played in the regular season, especially conference foes, in the first two rounds.
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 #71908  by FU Hoopla
 Fri May 19, 2023 7:05 pm
Anybody have a dream first round matchup for FU they would like to see?

ie. #12 Furman vs. #5 UCLA in Charlotte :D
 #71913  by cavedweller2
 Sat May 20, 2023 10:10 am
tya1 wrote:
Fri May 19, 2023 7:50 pm
Furman - Clemson in Charlotte would be fun
Not for Clemson.
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 #71914  by FU Hoopla
 Sat May 20, 2023 10:11 am
-FU certainly the favorite
-Flip mercer and wcu

 #72980  by FU Hoopla
 Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:52 am
College basketball coaches split on NCAA tournament expansion:



ORLANDO, Fla. -- Michigan State coach Tom Izzo questions the value of expanding the NCAA tournament -- a move that could be made in the coming months -- beyond its current 68-team field.

Izzo said expansion could diminish the multibillion-dollar product that defines the sport. There have been conversations about a 96-team field in recent years.


"I just think it's going to get watered down," Izzo told ESPN on Thursday at the NBPA Top 100 Camp at the ESPN Wide World of Sports in Orlando. "I worry about that a little bit. It wouldn't bother me if they did that, but I do worry that if it gets watered down, it's not good. ... I think 68 has been a pretty good number. I think you get enough good first-round games. That's me."

But there was no consensus on the topic at the Top 100 Camp, a showcase for the best high school basketball players in America, including Flory Bidunga (No. 4 prospect in the 2024 class, per ESPN), Cam Boozer (No. 1 in the 2025 class) and Cooper Flagg (No. 2 in 2025).


At the Final Four in April, new NCAA president Charlie Baker said the committee deliberating the issue could make a recommendation on possible expansion by the end of summer or the beginning of fall.

Kansas coach Bill Self said the time to expand is approaching because the transfer portal is changing the depth of men's basketball.

"I think what will determine [expansion] is the portal because there are going to be more good teams because I think you'll be able to have less teams take dips," he said. "Everybody will stay at a higher level. ... It might be time to really get serious about [expansion]. If the portal does what we think it's going to do, it's going to make it so it will be time."

Miami head coach Jim Larranaga was a star at Providence in 1971 when his team lost to Villanova in a game that cost the Friars a chance to go to the NCAA tournament, which included just 25 schools then. Villanova reached the national title game, where it lost to UCLA 68-62. Larranaga, who led Miami to its first Final Four in April, said he still wishes he had a chance to play in the tournament.

"I've been saying we should go to 96 forever," Larranaga said. "If the NCAA tournament is the biggest goal for every college basketball team but only 18% of the kids get to experience it and each year at least half the field is from the year before and the year before that ... it only makes sense to expand it and give more college student-athletes the experience."

Even among the coaches in support of expansion, however, the number of teams to add is also a polarizing.

Bruce Pearl, who coached at UW-Milwaukee before stints at Tennessee and Auburn, said he would support only a minor expansion of the field.

"I think when we went from 64 to 68 [teams], it didn't hurt anything," Pearl said. "I would be [in favor of] adding a handful of teams. You can say, 'Well, every year, there are going to be four or five teams that are left out of the tournament.' OK? So let's add four. I'm not for blowing it up. I'm not for 96."

Some coaches at the camp in Orlando have firsthand experience with the challenges of a 68-team field. Although Micah Shrewsberry snapped Penn State's 12-year NCAA tournament drought last season after a strong finish that helped the Nittany Lions squeeze into the field, he had to lead his team to the Big Ten tournament title game to secure that 10-seed. He said expansion would ensure that the top teams in America, especially at the lower levels of the sport, would have a chance to compete for a national title.

"I do think it's time for us to just expand," said Shrewsberry, now the head coach at Notre Dame. "You don't want to mess with it because the tournament is so good. But there are good teams that are getting left out of it. It also gets more of the mid-majors into it. You want to get all of the best teams in it. You think about teams that have won their leagues at a lower level and just because they don't play well in those three days [of a conference tournament], they don't go to the NCAA tournament. That team could be a team that's in the Sweet 16."

While expansion of the NCAA tournament is one of the significant issues officials within the sport are weighing right now, the future of the NCAA itself is also a factor. Texas A&M coach Buzz Williams said it's unclear, if expansion unfolds, who will manage that move.

"It's the only thing the NCAA owns," he said. "And within all of the changes, what is the NCAA going to be in charge of going forward? Are they in charge of the transfer portal? Are they in charge of NIL? Eventually, are they going to be in charge of the tournament? So it's hard to know what it's going to look like in five years. Are we still going to have the NCAA tournament the way we know it?"
 #74428  by cavedweller2
 Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:50 pm
Expand to 256 teams. Would add 1 weekend to the tournament.
 #74433  by Affirm
 Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:05 pm
cavedweller2 wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:50 pm
Expand to 256 teams. Would add 1 weekend to the tournament.
128 would be better than both 256 and 68.

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