• NC State - Sept. 18

 #43152  by din23
 Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:52 pm
Flagman wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pm
I saw the list on Facebook and said that it didn’t look good for viewing via that small network, especially since none of the website links worked. Furman then replied that it will be on ESPN3. Problem solved, doubt removed.
Not a small network at all. It's the new version of Fox Sports South, and they've shown ACC games in the Upstate and around the country the last few weeks, including William & Mary at Virginia and Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech.

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 #43153  by apaladin
 Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:18 pm
din23 wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:52 pm
Flagman wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pm
I saw the list on Facebook and said that it didn’t look good for viewing via that small network, especially since none of the website links worked. Furman then replied that it will be on ESPN3. Problem solved, doubt removed.
Not a small network at all. It's the new version of Fox Sports South, and they've shown ACC games in the Upstate and around the country the last few weeks, including William & Mary at Virginia and Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech.

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Correct. Braves games are shown on both networks. Tonights game with the Rockies is on bally sports south while this weekends games with the Giants will be on bally sports southeast..
Directv
646 Bally Sports South-Furman game Saturday.
649 Bally Sports Southeast-Braves game
din23 is correct these are the same networks that have been around for years and years just a different name now.(Ballys).
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 #43154  by Roundball
 Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:19 pm
din23 wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:52 pm
Flagman wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pm
I saw the list on Facebook and said that it didn’t look good for viewing via that small network, especially since none of the website links worked. Furman then replied that it will be on ESPN3. Problem solved, doubt removed.
Not a small network at all. It's the new version of Fox Sports South, and they've shown ACC games in the Upstate and around the country the last few weeks, including William & Mary at Virginia and Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech.

Spectrum 811
U-Verse 1724
It's also the home of the Atlanta Braves. It is not a small network at all.
 #43155  by apaladin
 Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:29 pm
apaladin wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:18 pm
din23 wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:52 pm
Flagman wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pm
I saw the list on Facebook and said that it didn’t look good for viewing via that small network, especially since none of the website links worked. Furman then replied that it will be on ESPN3. Problem solved, doubt removed.
Not a small network at all. It's the new version of Fox Sports South, and they've shown ACC games in the Upstate and around the country the last few weeks, including William & Mary at Virginia and Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech.

Spectrum 811
U-Verse 1724
Correct. Braves games are shown on both networks. Tonights game with the Rockies is on bally sports south while this weekends games with the Giants will be on bally sports southeast..
Directv
646 Bally Sports South-Furman game Saturday.
649 Bally Sports Southeast-Braves game
din23 is correct these are the same networks that have been around for years and years just a different name now.(Ballys).
Here is an article about the aquisition earlier this year. Bally’s is of course associated with Bally’s casino in Las Vegas.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/for ... ly-sports/
 #43158  by Flagman
 Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:25 pm
Roundball wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 4:19 pm
din23 wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:52 pm
Flagman wrote:
Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:17 pm
I saw the list on Facebook and said that it didn’t look good for viewing via that small network, especially since none of the website links worked. Furman then replied that it will be on ESPN3. Problem solved, doubt removed.
Not a small network at all. It's the new version of Fox Sports South, and they've shown ACC games in the Upstate and around the country the last few weeks, including William & Mary at Virginia and Kennesaw State at Georgia Tech.

Spectrum 811
U-Verse 1724
It's also the home of the Atlanta Braves. It is not a small network at all.
It’s not on Dish. My point was the Facebook post didn’t mention ESPN3.
 #43159  by FUBeAR
 Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:40 pm
Listed on 646 on DirecTV in ATL.

Just set the DVR to record it…for film study. Reckon can I talk the producers into providing simultaneous “Normal,” End Zone, Tight, and All 22 views on 4-way Split Screen …so we can really break it down.

Jackal would be getting a divorce by November if they did.
 #43160  by FUBeAR
 Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:48 pm
Oh…almost forgot…in other research today, I stumbled upon this Ultra-HD version of some of the ‘84 Paladin Pack Pounding…



Today is the 37th Anniversary of this Classic. CELEBRATE!!!

Oh yeah…Jackal - that’s Coach Hendrix in there at LG. You need to give us a full evaluation of his performance.
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 #43162  by apaladin
 Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:59 pm
That 1984 game was a close one 34-30. The next year was a blowout 42-20 and IIRC NCST scored very late to make it look more respectable. Never will forget being in Raleigh in ‘85 and hearing all the talk about they want sneak up on us this time etc. IIRC FU scored on the first or second play from scrimmage and the rout was on.
 #43177  by FUBeAR
 Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:08 am
The Jackal wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 6:43 am
Furman hopes to add to its giant killer history Saturday at N.C. State

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/ ... 346180002/
Welp, FUBeAR is gonna break ranks and disagree with Coach Hendrix on a couple of points in this article. Hope he ain’t too mad at me for it…

1) The “Money Hill” - dunno about this one; $5m in 1984 is $13m today…so maybe they are ~2x as rich now, but it’s not 6x…and we pretty much had less than nothing in those days. FU has excellent S&C facilities now, not Clemson or NCSU flashy, but it ain’t a Universal machine, a bench, a squat rack, and a dip bar in a basement. I imagine when it comes to on-field impact of $ disparity that Recruiting budget & Coaches salaries play the biggest roles. Well, IMO, we were never more talented, athletically, than those “Big” schools we beat, but we always outsmarted, out coached, and outplayed them when we won…and, of course, we did EXPECT to win those games. This Coaching Staff is at least as good, possibly better, overall, than those staffs. The “Athlete gap,” if wider, is not much wider, IMO. EDIT - oops, just saw he said half a million, not $5m…oh well…see Part 2 below…

2) Money Hill - Part 2. In those days, we had 55 Scholarship equivalents. NC State had 95 full scholarships. The math is pretty easy on that one. 95-55 = 40 and 85-63 = 22. (40-22)/22 = 0.82. So the schollie gap now has narrowed by 82% from what it was then. That’s a BIG number.

3) Size difference - go look at the starting lineups. Our Center was about 215, Coach’s running mate at LG was about 5’7”, Coach was about 220 (maybe). Wasn’t much difference on the DL. Their OL’s absolutely dwarfed our guys! MUCH less size disparity these days. MUCH, MUCH less in the trenches. As we all know, our CB’s in those days were about 5’9….so their 6-4 WR’s today are about the same as their 6-2 WR’s of those days vs. our 5-11ish CB’s. Besides, as we all know…size doesn’t matter.

4) Speed difference - maybe…I think, now, as then, that comes in 2 impactful ‘flavors.’ - a) they might have 1 or 2 ‘burners’ that can just run by everyone we have and b) overall Team speed. My view is these advantages certainly exist today. But they also existed then too. Just can’t assess the “how much different” question…but I don’t really think that is as important as how do you overcome it? I know how we overcame the Cock’s D’s speed in ‘82. Just about every running play was a Counter or had Counter elements to it, that held their peeps a step. That step was enough then. Might be today also… dunno.

We can still win these games. Then, as now, we need a lot to go right for us and a good bit to go wrong for them. And, we have to play exceptionally well, near-perfect Football… and we have to outsmart, outplay, and out hustle them for 4 quarters.

Most importantly, every one of Furman’s Players & Coaches must EXPECT to win this game…not “hope,” not “think,” not “believe.” EXPECT is a very different driver than those other, lesser things.
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 #43179  by Affirm
 Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:33 pm
Money Hill
A = $72,896
B= $24,895
“A” is the annual undergraduate cost-of-attendance published by NCSU. (in-state, but I would guess all the scholarship athletes who are from out-of-state get a waiver to in-state; so the scholarship budget is not affected by nonresident tuition rates)
“B” is the annual undergraduate cost-of-attendance published by FU.
So even if the football programs’ budgets were equal dollars at NCSU and Furman, NCSU’s budget would go a lot farther. Of course, the same would apply to almost every school we play.
 #43180  by Affirm
 Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:39 pm
National news media are highlighting the situation of Raleigh hospitals being packed with patients and short-staffed presently.
 #43181  by Furmanoid
 Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:45 pm
It’s the same everywhere in the South. But most of us manage to survive somehow. Hopefully none of our guys get hurt enough to need the hospital. I’m sure they won’t.
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 #43182  by Affirm
 Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:55 pm
Furmanoid wrote:
Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:45 pm
It’s the same everywhere in the South. But most of us manage to survive somehow. Hopefully none of our guys get hurt enough to need the hospital. I’m sure they won’t.
I know it’s that way lots of places in the south; but Raleigh is the place that I saw highlighted on national television news media today, and we are going there, to Raleigh, so that’s why I mentioned it. I also know (at least hope) that any of our guys getting hurt is not an issue.
I expect that dozens, scores, maybe hundreds of our fans, and a few Furman employees, will be traveling to Raleigh this weekend and staying there for anywhere from 4 to maybe 36 hours, so I hope that each and every one of them stays well and safe and avoids going to an emergency room.

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