The only reason it failed was because some coaches, conferences, schools, AD’s, players etc were not committed as they shoukd have been and sought an easy out asap. With that said when the 16 team field is announced on Sunday I am sure those 16 teams will be excited and ready to play. If we had lived up to expectations we’d be all in too.gman84 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:18 pmThe 2020/21 FCS football season needs to have a big ole asterisk next to it. It's a failed, botched, screwed up attempt of a season! Our spring season results... pretty unacceptable. That said, I am not going to criticize the efforts by the coaches, players, or any support staff because of the results. These people were placed in a situation totally different than any other season ever. This isn't an excuse, just an objective fact. Furman has several issues that need to be addressed before the fall season. We have a staff that knows how to win. I'm sure they know a repeat of this spring will not be accepted. Everyone has an opinion as to what should happen...the coaches do too. I'm lucky I don't have a message board to remind me every time I screw up.
Coaching Changes
GQ probably harder on himself than anyone else could be.
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As long as we are discussing coaching changes...
Who honestly thinks that we would have a better luck with a different OC who was hired in BLOODY MAY knowing that they would be expected to produce instantaneous results as the fans aren't going to tolerate several more seasons for Hendrix to get things together, at a school with a questionable track record of late going back 10+ years, and using a system that utilizes the skill sets of the current players that a previously reputable OC couldn't get results with.
I'm not sure about GQ either but there is no way that Furman looks like a smart career move for up and coming coaching talent right now.
Who honestly thinks that we would have a better luck with a different OC who was hired in BLOODY MAY knowing that they would be expected to produce instantaneous results as the fans aren't going to tolerate several more seasons for Hendrix to get things together, at a school with a questionable track record of late going back 10+ years, and using a system that utilizes the skill sets of the current players that a previously reputable OC couldn't get results with.
I'm not sure about GQ either but there is no way that Furman looks like a smart career move for up and coming coaching talent right now.
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And I don't know how responsibilities are divided up but we do have a offensive line/running game coordinator that is relatively new to that position...
Why is he getting no heat?
Why is he getting no heat?
Raising my hand!Thorny wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:49 pmAs long as we are discussing coaching changes...
Who honestly thinks that we would have a better luck with a different OC who was hired in BLOODY MAY knowing that they would be expected to produce instantaneous results as the fans aren't going to tolerate several more seasons for Hendrix to get things together, at a school with a questionable track record of late going back 10+ years, and using a system that utilizes the skill sets of the current players that a previously reputable OC couldn't get results with.
Bring back Art Baker
"Walk that aisle baby" Ric Flair
When things go this wrong there has to be changes. Because it is Furman I do not think anyone will be let go but maybe there will be some reassignment of coaches. One thing is certain come fall there needs to be another QB on the roster capable of starting and capable of running the 2019 offense. Whatever the reason it changed in the first place, personnel, coaches on crack... it needs to be junked.
I'm also going to throw this out there.
It has been repeatedly brought up by several on here that they want to go outside the Furman coaching tree. I'm always for getting the best coach we can but...
Fowler & Hendrix had impeccable resumes, experience, and were solid fits for Furman outside of their connections/history with Furman. I'm not sure how hiring coaches from Furman's glory days that moved onto bigger and better things with continued success is dumb.
Right now most on here view Mercer as the next perennial power of the Socon and they have yet to touch someone outside of our coaching tree.
It is just such a bs critique that it irritates me.
It has been repeatedly brought up by several on here that they want to go outside the Furman coaching tree. I'm always for getting the best coach we can but...
Fowler & Hendrix had impeccable resumes, experience, and were solid fits for Furman outside of their connections/history with Furman. I'm not sure how hiring coaches from Furman's glory days that moved onto bigger and better things with continued success is dumb.
Right now most on here view Mercer as the next perennial power of the Socon and they have yet to touch someone outside of our coaching tree.
It is just such a bs critique that it irritates me.
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Thorny wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:18 pmI'm also going to throw this out there.
It has been repeatedly brought up by several on here that they want to go outside the Furman coaching tree. I'm always for getting the best coach we can but...
Fowler & Hendrix had impeccable resumes, experience, and were solid fits for Furman outside of their connections/history with Furman. I'm not sure how hiring coaches from Furman's glory days that moved onto bigger and better things with continued success is dumb.
Right now most on here view Mercer as the next perennial power of the Socon and they have yet to touch someone outside of our coaching tree.
It is just such a bs critique that it irritates me.
Actually it's an entirely reasonable critique, because what used to work at Furman might not work anymore, and people who have succeeded for decades with one approach are not necessarily the best ones to dramatically change course.
I mean, in theory it can be done - Jerry Moore did it at App St - but no one here expects a true overhaul in any aspect of the program.
OK I guess I started the tree chopping bs. I never said the last three hires were dumb. I wasn’t crazy about giving so much emphasis to FU ties, but OK these guys had coached on some good FU teams. But now we’ve tried it 3 times. It hasn’t been awful, but it hasn’t been great (ok at times it’s awful). So why is it crazy to consider trying something else? Why would it be stupid to look at winning head coaches who are non tree?youwouldno wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:06 pmThorny wrote: ↑Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:18 pmI'm also going to throw this out there.
It has been repeatedly brought up by several on here that they want to go outside the Furman coaching tree. I'm always for getting the best coach we can but...
Fowler & Hendrix had impeccable resumes, experience, and were solid fits for Furman outside of their connections/history with Furman. I'm not sure how hiring coaches from Furman's glory days that moved onto bigger and better things with continued success is dumb.
Right now most on here view Mercer as the next perennial power of the Socon and they have yet to touch someone outside of our coaching tree.
It is just such a bs critique that it irritates me.
Actually it's an entirely reasonable critique, because what used to work at Furman might not work anymore, and people who have succeeded for decades with one approach are not necessarily the best ones to dramatically change course.
I mean, in theory it can be done - Jerry Moore did it at App St - but no one here expects a true overhaul in any aspect of the program.
And consider this. The youngest glory days coaches are in their 40’s (depending on how you define glory days). When CH moves out they’ll be in their 50’s or close. Do we have to give more 50 somethings their first HC gigs? Or do we need to bring in younger guys from Fowler’s teams?
I'll start here.
I'm not sure the youngsters from Fowler's teams moved on to bigger and better things.
Not sure any of the Furman faithful would be excited about having them either.
You're right, I'm not sure going forward if there will be smart choices but an SEC defensive coordinator and Assistant Head Coach at Air Force are solid hires.
I'm not sure the youngsters from Fowler's teams moved on to bigger and better things.
Not sure any of the Furman faithful would be excited about having them either.
You're right, I'm not sure going forward if there will be smart choices but an SEC defensive coordinator and Assistant Head Coach at Air Force are solid hires.
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This is encouraging news sort of. It appears there was a recognition all around that something needed to change.
On the other hand it appears that the FU OL job is treated as almost an entry level gig. We’re going from a really young guy to a really, really young guy who wasn’t even a lineman.
But on the third hand, the guy majored in math at Furman, so he’s clearly smart as hell and probably just soaks up everything CH teaches him. Might be so smart he can even think out of the box a little.
On the other hand it appears that the FU OL job is treated as almost an entry level gig. We’re going from a really young guy to a really, really young guy who wasn’t even a lineman.
But on the third hand, the guy majored in math at Furman, so he’s clearly smart as hell and probably just soaks up everything CH teaches him. Might be so smart he can even think out of the box a little.
Furmanoid wrote: ↑Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:48 amThis is encouraging news sort of. It appears there was a recognition all around that something needed to change.
On the other hand it appears that the FU OL job is treated as almost an entry level gig. We’re going from a really young guy to a really, really young guy who wasn’t even a lineman.
But on the third hand, the guy majored in math at Furman, so he’s clearly smart as hell and probably just soaks up everything CH teaches him. Might be so smart he can even think out of the box a little.
If you read the article, it says Pete Lusk is going to law school. I don't think it had anything to do with "something needing to change."
