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[Paladin91]

Affirm suggesting Furman take on natural rivalries like Valpo...Do me a favor and research their record over the past decade...It makes VMI look Southern Cal from 2003-05...If Furman ever goes to that league, it might as well just have an intramural football program...I mean I am serious...I would honestly not come to games anymore with the likes of Davidson, San Diego and Dayton to look forward to...in football...We have to have better poster's than this...Affirm you got to come up with a better solution than the Pioneer league...How do Villanova and Richmond compete in the CAA? They don't just settle for some podunk league that never wins anything.

I don't think Affirm is off kilter. I think the Pioneer may be a better fit, especially given the cost of FB scholarships at FU.

[apaladin]

I am with SoConjohn. Going to the Pioneer would end my association with FU football. Something that has been a part of my entire life. I would no longer give or buy season tickets or attend nor care. If you think about it FU cannot afford to go to the Pioneer because of increased travel expenses, reduced attendance and giving and no FBS money games. If it got that bad ED would just end football, like baseball which I am sure she would love to do.

[apaladin]

Don’t think this has been mentioned but we lost the game again because of a breakdown on an extra point and the lame play call on the 2 point attempt. Does anyone ever throw the ball sideways, 5 yards from the end zone on a 2 point attempt?

[Affirm]

I am with SoConjohn. Going to the Pioneer would end my association with FU football. Something that has been a part of my entire life. I would no longer give or buy season tickets or attend nor care. If you think about it FU cannot afford to go to the Pioneer because of increased travel expenses, reduced attendance and giving and no FBS money games. If it got that bad ED would just end football, like baseball which I am sure she would love to do.

Disagree with you.
It should be seriously considered.
And for those who leave for it being not just considered but done (if done, based on a decision that it would be best for Furman) it’s OK if you leave. Please be reminded that I stated it might be a good way to bring baseball back.

[Affirm]

Affirm suggesting Furman take on natural rivalries like Valpo...Do me a favor and research their record over the past decade...It makes VMI look Southern Cal from 2003-05...If Furman ever goes to that league, it might as well just have an intramural football program...I mean I am serious...I would honestly not come to games anymore with the likes of Davidson, San Diego and Dayton to look forward to...in football...We have to have better poster's than this...Affirm you got to come up with a better solution than the Pioneer league...How do Villanova and Richmond compete in the CAA? They don't just settle for some podunk league that never wins anything.

well.. there's always canx the whole program and put the funds to develop very competitive D1 programs in Basketball, soccer, track, tennis, golf all of which have really good success competing with the big boys and gals.

Might even have a few pennies left to bring back baseball. and take away 100 male athletes and instant gender equality

I did not say cancel all FB. I said move to Pioneer.

[Affirm]

Affirm suggesting Furman take on natural rivalries like Valpo...Do me a favor and research their record over the past decade...It makes VMI look Southern Cal from 2003-05...If Furman ever goes to that league, it might as well just have an intramural football program...I mean I am serious...I would honestly not come to games anymore with the likes of Davidson, San Diego and Dayton to look forward to...in football...We have to have better poster's than this...Affirm you got to come up with a better solution than the Pioneer league...How do Villanova and Richmond compete in the CAA? They don't just settle for some podunk league that never wins anything.

Better posters than this?
I could feel insulted, but I do not.
A better solution?
Sorry, I am not aware of one, until and unless some donor gives us about $75 million so we can stop overspending our limited resources on football.
“Doing the same thing again & again without good results is insanity.” [...or something like that...]
Villanova & Richmond both are much richer than Furman, I believe, in terms of athletics financial support from alumni and others sources.
Davidson competes in A-12. They had sense to quit spending buckets of money on expensive scholarships to have a football team.
Join Pioneer Football League. SoCon for all other sports, or else move to another conference like CAA or A-12 or something else if SoCon has a problem with us doing that.
It’s been about 20 years since we last were an FCS finalist.
I will be very surprised if we get to be an FCS finalist, or semi finalist, or even quarter finalist again, in the next 20 years, if ever.

[Roundball]

I am with SoConjohn. Going to the Pioneer would end my association with FU football. Something that has been a part of my entire life. I would no longer give or buy season tickets or attend nor care. If you think about it FU cannot afford to go to the Pioneer because of increased travel expenses, reduced attendance and giving and no FBS money games. If it got that bad ED would just end football, like baseball which I am sure she would love to do.

I hope you realize that many fans have already ended their association with Furman football. It started when Appalachian State and Georgia Southern were replaced with much lower standard teams. Check the attendance numbers if you don't believe me. Furman football has not been the same since we lost those two big rivals. I want Furman football to succeed as much as anyone, but the glory days are past us. Playing football in the SoCon is a losing money proposition. Can we afford to keep it going? I wish I could give the program millions of dollars to keep it going, but even if I could, FCS football is going to be a money pit. I certainly don't know the answers. I am glad I don't have to make the difficult decisions the Furman administration and leaders are faced with on a daily basis. All I do know is that basketball is the one sport than can make the big money for the rest of the athletic programs.

[apaladin]

Attendance was already on the decline before they left and attendance went down because they brought huge crowds and the decline continued for many reasons. As far as it being a difficult decision ED would have noproblem at all. She could cancel fb just like she did with baseball without giving it a thought.

[FUPlayer74]

We've lost 2 games by a total of 3 points and people are talking about dropping or diminishing football! Geez! I say let's fix the offense and finish out 6-2.