You are becoming an “oid” in my rear end.Furmanoid wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:24 pmI was making the point that Furman is winning even though their players aren’t all that talented. OK I’m wrong they are awesome. But somehow they needed a miracle to beat the most unathletic group of stiffs I think I’ve ever seen on a college court. So that means the coach must be horrible. What other explanation is there?
Furmanoid wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:51 pmYouwouldknow, you spend the first half of your post saying anybody can beat anybody. Then you say it would be impossible for Furman to beat number 60 if they weren’t really, really good. Don’t you see that you are contradicting yourself?
I never said Furman didn’t have talent. I said their results were incredibly good considering the talent they have. I think there is huge room for improvement. I guess you don’t. So while I think we can reach a dominant position in the SoCon, I guess you think we’ve just about peaked. I think you are wrong but I won’t call you any names because I’m a grownup.
Furman actually ranks 27th in all of D1 in Assist/Turnover ratio. They also rank 50th in turnovers per game. These are actual stats, not the eye test.Furmanoid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:41 amI’ll make a last attempt to defend myself. My DII reference was with respect to an eye test. That is not the same thing as computer rankings. It refers to what you SEE when you watch them. Their size and depth is good DII level. All but once when I’ve watched them they were having off shooting nights so even though their 3 percentage is only 2 or 3 points lower than the DII in my town, it LOOKED to be much worse. They seem to throw the ball away a good bit. Visually there isn’t anything that blows you away- except the win column. You guys are always saying they come in unprepared or don’t play hard, don’t have their hair on fire, etc. Or you offer the coach all kinds of strategic advice when they don’t play well. I think they are giving it their all and are overachieving.
No I didn’t say a top DII would steamroll the SoCon. But to think somebody like NWMS wouldn’t be pretty competitive is just stupid. And no Furman wouldn’t beat every DII by thirty. We’ve beaten 2 not so great ones by less than 30 this year. Oh, and I guess it’s a terrible thing to go and watch your local college if you didn’t go there. How the freak are you ever going to have crowds at FU games without people doing just that?
You should probably get the ESPN+ package and watch more Furman basketball before making such an asinine comment.Furmanoid wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:24 pmI was making the point that Furman is winning even though their players aren’t all that talented. OK I’m wrong they are awesome. But somehow they needed a miracle to beat the most unathletic group of stiffs I think I’ve ever seen on a college court. So that means the coach must be horrible. What other explanation is there?
The problem with the "eye" test is that some people, such as yourself, have really bad eyes.Furmanoid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:41 amI’ll make a last attempt to defend myself. My DII reference was with respect to an eye test. That is not the same thing as computer rankings. It refers to what you SEE when you watch them. Their size and depth is good DII level. All but once when I’ve watched them they were having off shooting nights so even though their 3 percentage is only 2 or 3 points lower than the DII in my town, it LOOKED to be much worse. They seem to throw the ball away a good bit. Visually there isn’t anything that blows you away- except the win column. You guys are always saying they come in unprepared or don’t play hard, don’t have their hair on fire, etc. Or you offer the coach all kinds of strategic advice when they don’t play well. I think they are giving it their all and are overachieving.
No I didn’t say a top DII would steamroll the SoCon. But to think somebody like NWMS wouldn’t be pretty competitive is just stupid. And no Furman wouldn’t beat every DII by thirty. We’ve beaten 2 not so great ones by less than 30 this year. Oh, and I guess it’s a terrible thing to go and watch your local college if you didn’t go there. How the freak are you ever going to have crowds at FU games without people doing just that?
Furmanoid wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:41 amI’ll make a last attempt to defend myself. My DII reference was with respect to an eye test. That is not the same thing as computer rankings. It refers to what you SEE when you watch them. Their size and depth is good DII level. All but once when I’ve watched them they were having off shooting nights so even though their 3 percentage is only 2 or 3 points lower than the DII in my town, it LOOKED to be much worse. They seem to throw the ball away a good bit. Visually there isn’t anything that blows you away- except the win column. You guys are always saying they come in unprepared or don’t play hard, don’t have their hair on fire, etc. Or you offer the coach all kinds of strategic advice when they don’t play well. I think they are giving it their all and are overachieving.
No I didn’t say a top DII would steamroll the SoCon. But to think somebody like NWMS wouldn’t be pretty competitive is just stupid. And no Furman wouldn’t beat every DII by thirty. We’ve beaten 2 not so great ones by less than 30 this year. Oh, and I guess it’s a terrible thing to go and watch your local college if you didn’t go there. How the freak are you ever going to have crowds at FU games without people doing just that?
DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:46 pmI know we used the Big South Conference as somewhat of a measuring stick for ourselves in years past, kinda have moved on to bigger things but just going back to those metrics we handily beat Winthrop this year (lead them big for most of the game) and they are now 10-0 in Big South play (have the look of a team that could sweep that league).
We don't gauge ourselves or league by the Big South as much anymore but that's just a small sample of the growth we have made at FU and in the SoCon as a whole.
