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[gman]

Hard to tell about WC. I think they are a good team but man their schedule has been ridiculously soft so far. This week they get a bye and have a bye next week when they play WCU at home. ETSU is by far the best team they have played since the 2 early losses. They have had a pretty easy schedule to "practice" against with not much pressure of any chance of losing so that should help them. They play at UTC on the 26th which again I think is a decent team but who knows.

Wofford never has a particularly difficult schedule. They've played Gardner Webb something like 6 years in a row.

I think they will be a good challenge, but nothing Furman shouldn't be prepared to meet.

I hope they keep winning and get back into the top 25. It'll make a win look better and a loss less bad.

Right. If we lose and Woff is top25 it’s not a bad loss. Better for SoCon. They would then move to top20 and a 9-3 FU team w two FBS losses and one FCS loss to top 20 is in.
To the point of Woff playing no one I agree w exception of ETSU. Furman w two FBS is the only team that has played anyone (Samford and ETSU are ok) as unfortunately the whole SoCon is pretty easy right now. Our next games are Cit and western ...

Any loss to a SoCon team is a bad loss. Woffy will not finish in the top 25 no matter what they do. We need to win out to control getting into the playoffs.

[FurmAlum]

The thing I don't get about Western is they have had two pretty good back to back recruiting years. I think Hero Sports had them ahead of Furman for the 2019 class.

Are those recruits not as good as the're cracked up to be or is it bad coaching???

[gofurman]

Hard to tell about WC. I think they are a good team but man their schedule has been ridiculously soft so far. This week they get a bye and have a bye next week when they play WCU at home. ETSU is by far the best team they have played since the 2 early losses. They have had a pretty easy schedule to "practice" against with not much pressure of any chance of losing so that should help them. They play at UTC on the 26th which again I think is a decent team but who knows.

Wofford never has a particularly difficult schedule. They've played Gardner Webb something like 6 years in a row.

I think they will be a good challenge, but nothing Furman shouldn't be prepared to meet.

I hope they keep winning and get back into the top 25. It'll make a win look better and a loss less bad.

Right. If we lose and Woff is top25 it’s not a bad loss. Better for SoCon. They would then move to top20 and a 9-3 FU team w two FBS losses and one FCS loss to top 20 is in.
To the point of Woff playing no one I agree w exception of ETSU. Furman w two FBS is the only team that has played anyone (Samford and ETSU are ok) as unfortunately the whole SoCon is pretty easy right now. Our next games are Cit and western ...

Any loss to a SoCon is a bad loss. Woffy will not finish in the top 25 no matter what they do. We need to win out to control getting into the playoffs.

Gman, you know your stuff but that statement doesn't make sense. Hear me out:

Not denying I would rather hope Furman wins out... but what you say is quite a statement. I hesitate to say 'never' or 'always' or 'no matter what they do'.

So taking you literally - you are saying if they won out (other than Clemson) and thus beat Furman they wouldn't be top 25? that's carzy - they are 34th now.. just winning out vs anyone will have them near top 25. Put Furman in there and they are absolutley top 25. no way a 8-3 Woff that ran off 7 wins (other than Clemson) and beat Furman - I mean beating Furman is in the assumption when you say 'no matter what they do' - is not top 25. I guarantee they would be if they won 8-3 and had a win over top ten Furman! that's a no brainer there

Literally - If Woff wins two or three more straight (and they should vs Western and Chatt and Mercer losing to Clemson) they will be 6-3. Already they are ranked 34th or so in both polls. winning three straight FCS will have them near top 25 when we play them. Why? one just on record. Two, the lower you are ranked (they are 34th) the easier it is to climb in polls as some of the teams near them will lose.

I just don't get how you can say no matter what they do they stay unranked? if Wofford beat every team (except Clemson) - so that includes top 10 Furman ! - they wouldn't be a top 25 team ???

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/ ... fcs-top-25

Woff is 33rd in STATS at 3-2 having played only ETSU

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/ ... aches-poll
Woff is 35 in coaches at 3-2. Get to 6-3 with the loss to Clemson and they may be top 25 the week we play them! It's sort of the literal view vs the eye test. Literally I don't see how they wouldn't be ranked at 6-3 which they will be favored to be vs Westrn and Mercer and Chatt

[Davemeister]

Any loss to Wofford is a bad loss.

We beat them last year, but we still have plenty of back dues to collect. In 2017, they beat us twice and sent us home from the playoffs.

When was the last time we beat Wofford in Spartanburg? ( I'm feeling too lazy today to research it.)

I would love nothing better this year than to see us drill the Pups in front of their home crowd - all 2,000 of 'em.

[gofurman]

Any loss to Wofford is a bad loss.

We beat them last year, but we still have plenty of back dues to collect. In 2017, they beat us twice and sent us home from the playoffs.

When was the last time we beat Wofford in Spartanburg? ( I'm feeling too lazy today to research it.)

I would love nothing better this year than to see us drill the Pups in front of their home crowd - all 2,000 of 'em.

Davemeister, I agree - I wasn't talking about beating them. I was talking about where they would be in the poll. I am very very literal. Ranked 34 now if they go 3-1 in next 4 (loss to tiggers) they will be pushing top 25 already. It was stated that "no matter what they do" they can't get ranked.. that's just not true. If they beat us they WOULD be ranked as they are getting votes.... by then would be near top 25 and add a win on a top 10 FU team? That would pull them in to top 25 or top 20. Watch the polls these next few weeks

Still, we can go 9-3 and easily make playoffs. That's the great thing. We have the name again and the ranking ! I am not saying we lose to Woff. I was just replying to the prior post. On other hand we have played so well we have cushion this year to lose a game. We would get in at 9-3 easily as we might fall to 18th or so w one more loss

to your point of Spartanburg it has been a while since we won there. very home biased in the series - I just looked and 2006 (13 years ago!) last time we won in Sparkle City.. SHEESH

[FUpaladin08]

Towson and UNI losing should put Furman in the Top 10. Not sure Montana St will drop past us though.

[gofurman]

Good stuff. As Jackal and we all say now getting in the poll is unfairly hard. It is not a good system. Falling out is pretty tough once you have a rep. Those two things are biased for sure.
What is fair is once you are in polls the votes are roughly right for those 25 teams. IE if UNI loses at number 10 and we are number 11 we probably gain a spot but Woff or anyone below 15 will not benefit from a UNI loss

[DungeonRealm]

Towson and UNI losing should put Furman in the Top 10. Not sure Montana St will drop past us though.

Already a topic on Top 10 here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1246

Yeah we will move over Montana St. as well, they got smoked at home to an unranked team

[gofurman]

It's not just moving up its good when those nearby in 10-25 range lose as that allows more cushion in case we lose... or that Ivy league teams or HBCU are top 25 as neither go to playoffs (usally though HBCU can attend playoffs).

Here are good things for us:
I am using STATS and COACHES...
I hope none of this matters but fun to track and so glad to have fun tracking it with us back in the top 11 or so!!!

Princeton is 20th (roughly) so that's a team that will NOT go to playoffs and frees up a spot; same w NC A&T in top 20
18th ranked Maine lost and is now 2-4 .. they should drop out
15th Delaware got killed by Elon
21st Southeast Missouri state lost to APeay (yes, the APeay that our 0-3 Socon ETSU guys beat)
22 Stony Brook lost
25 sam houston state lost.
23rd Southeast Louisiana lost
a lot of losses in that 10-25 range. nice !!!

top 5 KSU did win over CSU by about 20 - at least thats no better than we did though I don't know anything but the score.

we want carnage in all the top teams (captain obvious but I love to see a team at 20th that is 3-3 that makes me feel we are safer). big ones - yes, UNI at 10th lost to NDSU... 6 montana state? not sure... 9 towson lost!

[stonemd]

One man’s ballot
https://herosports.com/fcs/football-201 ... eek-7-ajaj

FUrman at #5

[gofurman]

One man’s ballot
https://herosports.com/fcs/football-201 ... eek-7-ajaj

FUrman at #5

AWESOME - and I do see he has Woff at 20th... and 'nobowls ' ALREADY has Woff in playoffs ! (admit that shocks me some as his data is 'as of this date so far'. I was told in a post above that in no universe could Woff ever make top 25 NO MATTER what they did.. Heck, according to some now they will be close in a week or two. Be careful not to make absolute statements. Like Dave Ramsey says, " do the math" - LOL. Where Woff stands its easy to move up as tons of teams at 20-30 will lose. That happened this week already as 6 teams in the 15-25 range lost.

HATE Woff - HATE. But I just do math similar to when we ourselves were 0-3 in 2017 and told "you can't make playoffs" and I asked on AGS "literally, what if we won out"? And eyeball test people told me "it won't matter as FU CANNOT make playoffs" They weren't listening to the literal question. They just didn't think we could win - that wasn't my question! And we went 7-1 and made playoffs at 7-4 !!! sweet. Ever since our 0-3 start and we made playoffs in 207 I am slow to write any team in any conference off especially if they start changing.

[AstroDin]

I don't know if this will help our stock… many thought Georgia State is still a terrible FBS team and that was not a feel-good about loss. The Panthers beat Coastal at Coastal 31-21. GSU is now 4-2.

[AstroDin]

I'm looking at my FCS Ballot - I put Cambell and Wofford in my top 25.

One thing to watch this week in the polls how much of a bump of respect does Sac St get for beating Montana St in Bozeman. Some are predicting Montana and Sac St getting bids if that happens the DINS are playing week one in the playoffs.

[The Jackal]

I don't know if this will help our stock… many thought Georgia State is still a terrible FBS team and that was not a feel-good about loss. The Panthers beat Coastal at Coastal 31-21. GSU is now 4-2.

Anyone that says Georgia State is a terrible team hasn't watched them play. They aren't Alabama, but they're just fine and will probably make a bowl game.

[FUBeAR]

I'm looking at my FCS Ballot - I put Cambell and Wofford in my top 25.

One thing to watch this week in the polls how much of a bump of respect does Sac St get for beating Montana St in Bozeman. Some are predicting Montana and Sac St getting bids if that happens the DINS are playing week one in the playoffs.

Campbell? - Nope, too soon. They need to win their next 4 to make my Top 25.

I have APSU @ #13 though - blew it against ETSU, but they were very close with Central Arkansas & have had some nice wins since. Talented bunch, actually.

Have had Sac St ranked for 4 weeks. Zoomed them up to #7 this week. Might be a bit lofty, but so many losses above them...I have Montana @ #6 & Montana State @ #15.

And...yes, I have reluctantly ranked the yardbarkers again (don’t tell them) @ #25. Schedule has been quite favorable to them. Both VMI & ETSU had chances to get back in those games, but didn’t. If Chatt’s RB corps is healthy & Tiano has a decent game, I honestly think it’s possible for them to start the slide that could lead to the littlepups losing their last 5 games. Gotta play D on them though. Their O is back to its old self. D...not so much.