And that person is not JJ.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:57 pmWe need someone who is more vocal, approachable and personable to be the head of the SoCon
Not someone who only speaks when spoken to
And that person is not JJ.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:57 pmWe need someone who is more vocal, approachable and personable to be the head of the SoCon
Not someone who only speaks when spoken to
gman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:55 pmAnd that person is not JJ.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:57 pmWe need someone who is more vocal, approachable and personable to be the head of the SoCon
Not someone who only speaks when spoken to
Make the regular season meaningful by letting the regular season champs host the tourney. A logistical nightmare, but it would make things very interesting....DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:44 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:42 pmWhy do we need a bigger venue? I still saw a lot of empty seats in Asheville. Greenville would be great, but I'm not buying that the community would embrace the tourney more. And Asheville is certainly an upgrade over rotating it every couple of years where one of the options was Chattanooga's home court.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:37 pmMoving the tourney to Asheville was good for location purposes but a downgrade on venue, no video boards, VIP room is dated and court is not visible as it is in Greenville VIP lounge, ect., I see no reason why something can't be worked out with downtown Greenville to bring the tournament back to a larger, nicer venue now that the conference is getting big crowds againfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:28 pm
Since he's been a punching bag on here for a while, I'll come to his defense. Anybody that has spent more than 5 minutes with him (I have) knows how quality of a person he is and what he has meant to the league. Conference commissioner is not an easy job - at any level - but to deal with the egos of school presidents and administration while also putting together a quality hoops league after losing Davidson, CofC, Elon, App State and GSU is absolutely remarkable. I think at times the league has played catch-up in some aspects, but to get the hoops championship to Asheville and to get Flour Field in the mix for baseball tourney is commendable and great for the league. The league has also capitalized on the ESPN3 opportunities and will have instant replay in football. Not to mention the fact that the league truly values it's non-revenue sports. If you've ever been to the cross country championships or volleyball tourney you would see it. Lastly, he's hired a lot of people that have stayed around the league office for quite a while that are well respected in the league. That says something about his leadership and ability to hire and retain quality people.
6,400 is full capacity, as the league expands we will need more seats for semifinals and champ games
Fair. Those are incredibly important qualities of a conference leader. Will be curious to see where they turn. I don't know how the conference commissioner search works. Do you look at a smaller conference leader, an associate commissioner at a major conference? Hopefully the SoCon would be an appealing job ... great area of the country, good footprint, elite academic schools, historic.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:57 pmWe need someone who is more vocal, approachable and personable to be the head of the SoCon
Not someone who only speaks when spoken to
My main problem with that is it makes the conference seem even smaller. The only conferences that do that now are similar in size of the Big South, Northeast Conference, etc. It would draw in more of a crowd for the home team, but would be a disaster for the other games. Can you imagine if VMI or Samford were to win and fans had less than a week to book it from Greenville for example? At least Asheville is within a short drive of much of the league with the exceptions being Mercer, Samford, VMI and kinda The Citadel.MidlandsPaladin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:46 pmMake the regular season meaningful by letting the regular season champs host the tourney. A logistical nightmare, but it would make things very interesting....DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:44 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:42 pmWhy do we need a bigger venue? I still saw a lot of empty seats in Asheville. Greenville would be great, but I'm not buying that the community would embrace the tourney more. And Asheville is certainly an upgrade over rotating it every couple of years where one of the options was Chattanooga's home court.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:37 pmMoving the tourney to Asheville was good for location purposes but a downgrade on venue, no video boards, VIP room is dated and court is not visible as it is in Greenville VIP lounge, ect., I see no reason why something can't be worked out with downtown Greenville to bring the tournament back to a larger, nicer venue now that the conference is getting big crowds againfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:28 pm
Since he's been a punching bag on here for a while, I'll come to his defense. Anybody that has spent more than 5 minutes with him (I have) knows how quality of a person he is and what he has meant to the league. Conference commissioner is not an easy job - at any level - but to deal with the egos of school presidents and administration while also putting together a quality hoops league after losing Davidson, CofC, Elon, App State and GSU is absolutely remarkable. I think at times the league has played catch-up in some aspects, but to get the hoops championship to Asheville and to get Flour Field in the mix for baseball tourney is commendable and great for the league. The league has also capitalized on the ESPN3 opportunities and will have instant replay in football. Not to mention the fact that the league truly values it's non-revenue sports. If you've ever been to the cross country championships or volleyball tourney you would see it. Lastly, he's hired a lot of people that have stayed around the league office for quite a while that are well respected in the league. That says something about his leadership and ability to hire and retain quality people.
6,400 is full capacity, as the league expands we will need more seats for semifinals and champ games
Asheville's a great site. Lots of restaurants, bars, hotels and parking nearby. If it came to the Well the GA seats would be worse, there'd be a bs clear bag policy and worthless metal detectors to wait through to get in, you couldn't get readmittance (and why would you leave, you'd have to drive), concessions would be worse including beer, and it has zero atmosphere/nostalgic feel.fufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:51 pmMy main problem with that is it makes the conference seem even smaller. The only conferences that do that now are similar in size of the Big South, Northeast Conference, etc. It would draw in more of a crowd for the home team, but would be a disaster for the other games. Can you imagine if VMI or Samford were to win and fans had less than a week to book it from Greenville for example? At least Asheville is within a short drive of much of the league with the exceptions being Mercer, Samford, VMI and kinda The Citadel.MidlandsPaladin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:46 pmMake the regular season meaningful by letting the regular season champs host the tourney. A logistical nightmare, but it would make things very interesting....DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:44 pmfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:42 pmWhy do we need a bigger venue? I still saw a lot of empty seats in Asheville. Greenville would be great, but I'm not buying that the community would embrace the tourney more. And Asheville is certainly an upgrade over rotating it every couple of years where one of the options was Chattanooga's home court.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:37 pmMoving the tourney to Asheville was good for location purposes but a downgrade on venue, no video boards, VIP room is dated and court is not visible as it is in Greenville VIP lounge, ect., I see no reason why something can't be worked out with downtown Greenville to bring the tournament back to a larger, nicer venue now that the conference is getting big crowds againfufanatic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:28 pm
Since he's been a punching bag on here for a while, I'll come to his defense. Anybody that has spent more than 5 minutes with him (I have) knows how quality of a person he is and what he has meant to the league. Conference commissioner is not an easy job - at any level - but to deal with the egos of school presidents and administration while also putting together a quality hoops league after losing Davidson, CofC, Elon, App State and GSU is absolutely remarkable. I think at times the league has played catch-up in some aspects, but to get the hoops championship to Asheville and to get Flour Field in the mix for baseball tourney is commendable and great for the league. The league has also capitalized on the ESPN3 opportunities and will have instant replay in football. Not to mention the fact that the league truly values it's non-revenue sports. If you've ever been to the cross country championships or volleyball tourney you would see it. Lastly, he's hired a lot of people that have stayed around the league office for quite a while that are well respected in the league. That says something about his leadership and ability to hire and retain quality people.
6,400 is full capacity, as the league expands we will need more seats for semifinals and champ games
That's funny. Apparently you never go there. I guess that is why some of the biggest name performers like Bruce Springsteen, Garth Brooks, Elton John, Paul McCartney etc, etc I could go on and on have come here or are coming here. That is why the SEC has made it home for the women's tournament and will for the next 2 years. Why the men's and women's NCAA first round tournaments will return in a couple of years. It is great for the Greenville community. As far as Asheville, the city does not support the tournament. No one from Asheville attends the tournament unless they happen to be a fan of a team. Of course that would prolly be true of Greenville too.
Those performers are coming here for business reasons not for the venue itself.apaladin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:35 pmThat's funny. Apparently you never go there. I guess that is why some of the biggest name performers like Bruce Springsteen, Garth Brooks, Elton John, Paul McCartney etc, etc I could go on and on have come here or are coming here. That is why the SEC has made it home for the women's tournament and will for the next 2 years. Why the men's and women's NCAA first round tournaments will return in a couple of years. It is great for the Greenville community. As far as Asheville, the city does not support the tournament. No one from Asheville attends the tournament unless they happen to be a fan of a team. Of course that would prolly be true of Greenville too.
BonSecours was opened in 1998. MCI Center was same year, maybe 1999 at the latest.apaladin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:23 amOf course all of those were are much newer. The BSWA is 20+ years old now. The BSWA has been remodeled. I have seen a few BB games there recently including the first round of the NCAA tourney and had seats 5 rows from the top in the upper level and thought the seats were great. Much closer to the action than in the ones you mentioned if you sat in their upper level. Same goes for the Spectrum Center in Charlotte and State Farm Arena in Atlanta. I go to the BSWA all the time and always enjoy it. No it's not a modern type facility but it is great to have major events in Greenville and it is a big plus for Greenville, certainly much nicer and more modern than the the Asheville Civic Center which is really dated and built in the mid 70's. I guess we will have to disagree on this one.
I'll believe it when I see it. Which is impossible for this year, but I think you get my point.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:09 pmI swear this could have been a year where FU vs Woff would pull in 10,000+ for a championship game in Greenville
fufanatic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:39 amI'll believe it when I see it. Which is impossible for this year, but I think you get my point.DungeonRealm wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:09 pmI swear this could have been a year where FU vs Woff would pull in 10,000+ for a championship game in Greenville