The Unofficial Furman Football Page

Dick Vitale getting in on the love.

Any of these guys that have us not ranked yet have Villanova ranked Furman should mail (email) each one of them a game tape of us beating those boys in their own gym

Edgar Thompson - Guy must be a dunce, has Nova ranked 15th and has Furman unranked @osgators

Tom Bragg has Nova 16th and Furman unranked @TomBraggSports

Donna Ditota has Nova 17th and Furman unranked dditota@syracuse.com

John Bednarowski has Nova 17th and Furman unranked sportseditor@mdjonline.com

Jesse Newell has Nova ranked 19th and Furman unranked jnewell@kcstar.com

Josh Vitale has Nova ranked 19th and Furman unranked jvitale@gannett.com

Joey Knight has Nova ranked 20th and Furman unranked jknight@tampabay.com

B.J. Rains has Nova ranked 21st and Furman unranked bjrains@idahopress.com

Jeff Call has Nova ranked 21st and Furman unranked jeffc@deseretnews.com

Joe Juliano has Nova ranked 21st and Furman unranked jjuliano@phillynews.com

Steve Hewitt has Nova ranked 21st and Furman unranked @steve_hewitt

Brian Holland has Nova ranked 22nd and Furman unranked @bhollandsports

Dave Matter has Nova ranked 22nd and Furman unranked @Dave_Matter

Jerry Carino has Nova ranked 22nd and Furman unranked jcarino@gannett.com

Terry Toohey has Nova ranked 22nd and Furman unranked ttoohey@delcotimes.com

Cecil Hurt has Nova ranked 23rd and Furman unranked cecil.hurt@tuscaloosanews.com

Dave Preston has Nova ranked 23rd and Furman unranked dpreston@wtop.com
(He also has Davidson ranked)

Matt McCoy has Nova ranked 23rd and Furman unranked mattmccoy@clearchannel.com

Elton Alexander has Nova ranked 24th and Furman unranked @eaPeeDee

Lauren Brownlow has Nova ranked 24th and Furman unranked @lebrownlow

Richard Croome has Nova ranked 24th and Furman unranked richard.croome@theeagle.com

T.J. Werre has Nova ranked 24th and Furman unranked twerre@wjtv.com

Bob Holt has Nova ranked 25th and Furman unranked bholt@arkansasonline.com

Zach Osterman has Nova ranked 25th and Furman unranked zach.osterman@indystar.com

The sorts of things these guys should pay a little attention to:

It's entirely defensible to have Villanova ranked and Furman not. Furman got pasted by Winthrop last year, was Winthrop a better team? No. That's just not how college basketball works. The transitive property isn't an option because you quickly start running into contradictions.

It's fun to have Furman in there, but for voters that take their vote seriously, it makes complete sense to omit the Paladins.

youwouldno wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:52 pm

It's entirely defensible to have Villanova ranked and Furman not. Furman got pasted by Winthrop last year, was Winthrop a better team? No. That's just not how college basketball works. The transitive property isn't an option because you quickly start running into contradictions.

It's fun to have Furman in there, but for voters that take their vote seriously, it makes complete sense to omit the Paladins.

Disagree, not even counting the fact that we beat them in their own arena, Nova has already been blasted for a second loss, Furman is undefeated, there is nothing to this point in the season you can point to and say Nova deserves to be ranked and Furman does not.

Except that Furman is not one of the best 25 teams in the country. Leaving Villanova out is certainly reasonable but that doesn't mean Furman should be in - actually, the lower Villanova is ranked, the less of a case that Furman has.

youwouldno wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:58 pm

Except that Furman is not one of the best 25 teams in the country. Leaving Villanova out is certainly reasonable but that doesn't mean Furman should be in - actually, the lower Villanova is ranked, the less of a case that Furman has.

My point is to the voters that have Villanova ranked and not Furman, not to the voters that don't rank either team

Disagree, not even counting the fact that we beat them in their own arena, Nova has already been blasted for a second loss, Furman is undefeated, there is nothing to this point in the season you can point to and say Nova deserves to be ranked and Furman does not.
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......but since the FU/Villanova game:
Villanova has beaten Canisius by 27, Oklahoma St by 19 and undefeated and 14th ranked Florida St .by 6.

Furman has beaten D2 and winless Southern Wesleyan by 17 and no D1 wins UNCA by 14,

Big advantage to 'Nova.

I'm not concerned with this for now. If we go undefeated during non-conference, we will be ranked. Heck, even if our only loss is a close one to LSU, we might have a shot.

apaladin wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:12 pm

Disagree, not even counting the fact that we beat them in their own arena, Nova has already been blasted for a second loss, Furman is undefeated, there is nothing to this point in the season you can point to and say Nova deserves to be ranked and Furman does not.

......but since the FU/Villanova game:
Villanova has beaten Canisius by 27, Oklahoma St by 19 and undefeated and 14th ranked Florida St .by 6.

Furman has beaten D2 and winless Southern Wesleyan by 17 and no D1 wins UNCA by 14,

Big advantage to 'Nova.
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Beating 1-5 Canisius is no better than beating UNCA, and lets just say beating Ok. St. and Fl. St. just gets them back to level with Furman after blowout to Michigan and head to head lose at home to Furman

If Nova is ranked so to should Furman

Btw I totally respect everyone's opinion on this, each person is more than entitled to view the polls how they see fit

I am just coming from a spot where I see a team that is worth fighting for

Also worth noting, as far as I can tell Furman has never been ranked in the Top 25 AP Poll

http://www.collegepollarchive.com/mbask ... _2RbGhKjIU

youwouldno wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:58 pm

Except that Furman is not one of the best 25 teams in the country. Leaving Villanova out is certainly reasonable but that doesn't mean Furman should be in - actually, the lower Villanova is ranked, the less of a case that Furman has.

I have watched all Furman games, in person or the tube. I’ve watched a lot of other teams on the tube. So far, Furman passes the eye test for one of the Top 25 teams.