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SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:01 am
by FU Hoopla
Maybe Ashville will be fine by March, not sure, but thought this was kind of interesting...



Maybe the SoCon will need to move the Tourney to Greenville ;)
Nothing showing March 7-10 at Bon Secours Wellness Arena on the events schedule currently so maybe its available...
https://www.bonsecoursarena.com/events/all

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:24 am
by Roundball
FU Hoopla wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:01 am
Maybe Ashville will be fine by March, not sure, but thought this was kind of interesting...



Maybe the SoCon will need to move the Tourney to Greenville ;)
Nothing showing March 7-10 at Bon Secours Wellness Arena on the events schedule currently so maybe its available...
https://www.bonsecoursarena.com/events/all
The SEC Women’s BB Tournament is already scheduled, from March 5 to March 9.

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:32 am
by FU Hoopla
Roundball wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:24 am
FU Hoopla wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:01 am
Maybe Ashville will be fine by March, not sure, but thought this was kind of interesting...



Maybe the SoCon will need to move the Tourney to Greenville ;)
Nothing showing March 7-10 at Bon Secours Wellness Arena on the events schedule currently so maybe its available...
https://www.bonsecoursarena.com/events/all
The SEC Women’s BB Tournament is already scheduled, from March 5 to March 9.


Oh, well dang!
Kind of strange how they don't list it on the events page....

But anyway disregard I guess, hope Asheville will be fine by March, sure as heck don't want them to move it to freaking Spartanburg lol :lol:

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:39 am
by PaladinPower
Charleston, SC would be fun and gets my meaningless vote.

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:03 pm
by FU Hoopla
PaladinPower wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2024 11:39 am
Charleston, SC would be fun and gets my meaningless vote.

Good place but when it was there in the past it was not well attended at all other than by CofC fans...

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:06 am
by Paladin91
I'm just not a fan of Harrah's Asheville - it's dumpy as is most of downtown Asheville. The venue needs to be leveled and rebuilt with something modern. It's a shame that the SOCON could not get the tournament in Greenville every year. SEC women have had it in Greenville for a while now. Not sure what kind of revenue the SEC women's tournament brings to Greenville vs the Men and Women's SOCON tourney in Asheville. I imagine it may be similar.

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:39 am
by Roundball
Paladin91 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:06 am
I'm just not a fan of Harrah's Asheville - it's dumpy as is most of downtown Asheville. The venue needs to be leveled and rebuilt with something modern. It's a shame that the SOCON could not get the tournament in Greenville every year. SEC women have had it in Greenville for a while now. Not sure what kind of revenue the SEC women's tournament brings to Greenville vs the Men and Women's SOCON tourney in Asheville. I imagine it may be similar.
I would expect revenue for the women’s SEC tournament is much higher than the Socon Tournament. For that reason, as long as the SEC calls Greenville home, there is no reason to go after the SoCon Tournament.

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
by apaladin
Paladin91 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:06 am
I'm just not a fan of Harrah's Asheville - it's dumpy as is most of downtown Asheville. The venue needs to be leveled and rebuilt with something modern. It's a shame that the SOCON could not get the tournament in Greenville every year. SEC women have had it in Greenville for a while now. Not sure what kind of revenue the SEC women's tournament brings to Greenville vs the Men and Women's SOCON tourney in Asheville. I imagine it may be similar.
Agree Asheville and the civic center are not up to par. The SEC womens probably outdraws the SoCon mens and womens by 3-4 tmes at least.

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:04 pm
by Paladin91
I'm going to be bias because I'm in the Atlanta area, but would love to see the tournament moved to Gas South Arena near Mall of GA in north Gwinnett. Modern, seats up to 13K (can close off top if needed) and pretty central to most SOCON teams. Plus ATL has a sizeable fan base for all SOCON teams. https://www.gassouthdistrict.com/arena

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:43 pm
by fupaladin01
apaladin wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
Paladin91 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:06 am
I'm just not a fan of Harrah's Asheville - it's dumpy as is most of downtown Asheville. The venue needs to be leveled and rebuilt with something modern. It's a shame that the SOCON could not get the tournament in Greenville every year. SEC women have had it in Greenville for a while now. Not sure what kind of revenue the SEC women's tournament brings to Greenville vs the Men and Women's SOCON tourney in Asheville. I imagine it may be similar.
Agree Asheville and the civic center are not up to par. The SEC womens probably outdraws the SoCon mens and womens by 3-4 tmes at least.
It's more like 2-1

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:59 pm
by Roundball
fupaladin01 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:43 pm
apaladin wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
Paladin91 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:06 am
I'm just not a fan of Harrah's Asheville - it's dumpy as is most of downtown Asheville. The venue needs to be leveled and rebuilt with something modern. It's a shame that the SOCON could not get the tournament in Greenville every year. SEC women have had it in Greenville for a while now. Not sure what kind of revenue the SEC women's tournament brings to Greenville vs the Men and Women's SOCON tourney in Asheville. I imagine it may be similar.
Agree Asheville and the civic center are not up to par. The SEC womens probably outdraws the SoCon mens and womens by 3-4 tmes at least.
It's more like 2-1
Last years SEC attendance in Greenville was 65,000. I can’t find anything for the SoCon tournament in Asheville, but I expect it was no more than 25,000.

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Fri Oct 25, 2024 12:06 am
by FU Hoopla
Roundball wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 6:59 pm
fupaladin01 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:43 pm
apaladin wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:44 am
Paladin91 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:06 am
I'm just not a fan of Harrah's Asheville - it's dumpy as is most of downtown Asheville. The venue needs to be leveled and rebuilt with something modern. It's a shame that the SOCON could not get the tournament in Greenville every year. SEC women have had it in Greenville for a while now. Not sure what kind of revenue the SEC women's tournament brings to Greenville vs the Men and Women's SOCON tourney in Asheville. I imagine it may be similar.
Agree Asheville and the civic center are not up to par. The SEC womens probably outdraws the SoCon mens and womens by 3-4 tmes at least.
It's more like 2-1
Last years SEC attendance in Greenville was 65,000. I can’t find anything for the SoCon tournament in Asheville, but I expect it was no more than 25,000.

In 2022-23 (the year Furman won the Tourney Title) each men's session attendance was as follows:
1st Round
2,765
Quarterfinal Rounds
4,851
3,995
Semifinal Round
5,367
Championship
6,102

Re: SoCon Tournament Venue

PostPosted:Fri Oct 25, 2024 3:05 pm
by fupaladin01
AI Overview (Google)

…The Southern Conference (SoCon) basketball tournament in Asheville, North Carolina typically attracts over 30,000 fans over the course of the weekend. The tournament is held at Harrah's Cherokee Center, which can accommodate up to 7,674 people. The 2025 tournament will take place from March 7–10.
The attendance for the 2023 SoCon basketball championship game between Furman and Chattanooga was 6,102. The game was held at Harrah's Cherokee Center in Asheville, North Carolina on March 6, 2023.

Via Google AI:
The 2024 SEC Women's Basketball Tournament in Greenville, South Carolina set new all-time records for the tournament with 64,905 total attendees and 13,163 fans for the championship game:
2024 SEC Women's Basketball Tournament
Total attendance
64,905
Championship game attendance
13,163

65,000 (a record) divided by 30,000(avg) = 2.166

13,163 (a record) divided by 6,102 = 2.157

Thus, aproximately 2-1 ratio