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Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:40 pm
by FU Hoopla
Well it's about time we discussed growing the SoCon again lol :D

I would love to see 5 realistic additions of William & Mary, College Of Charleston, Elon, UNC Wilmington and Eastern Kentucky...

That would add 5 new hoops schools and 3 new football schools all well within the footprint of the SoCon and strengthen the league with a good mix of new private and state schools...

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:14 pm
by Sad Din
FU Hoopla wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:40 pm
Well it's about time we discussed growing the SoCon again lol :D

I would love to see 5 realistic additions of William & Mary, College Of Charleston, Elon, UNC Wilmington and Eastern Kentucky...

That would add 5 new hoops schools and 3 new football schools all well within the footprint of the SoCon and strengthen the league with a good mix of new private and state schools...
definitly no to Elon. Others ok with SD

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:49 pm
by FU Hoopla
Sad Din wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 1:14 pm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 12:40 pm
Well it's about time we discussed growing the SoCon again lol :D

I would love to see 5 realistic additions of William & Mary, College Of Charleston, Elon, UNC Wilmington and Eastern Kentucky...

That would add 5 new hoops schools and 3 new football schools all well within the footprint of the SoCon and strengthen the league with a good mix of new private and state schools...
definitly no to Elon. Others ok with SD

Sounds good, would bring the SoCon to 14 hoops schools and 11 of those with hoops and football

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Mon Aug 12, 2024 5:41 pm
by paladinfan12
I'd be open to adding Davidson (if they wanted to add scholarship football), Belmont, or Richmond as well.

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:09 pm
by FU Hoopla
paladinfan12 wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2024 5:41 pm
I'd be open to adding Davidson (if they wanted to add scholarship football), Belmont, or Richmond as well.
I definitely considered Davidson and Richmond, but think they consider A10 Basketball too important to them to leave for the SoCon...

I also considered Belmont but not sure they would want to join SoCon over MVC...

Basically all the schools I chose I am 99% sure we could actually get to join...

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:10 pm
by Sad Din
might want to re-think Davy...


Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:23 pm
by apaladin
As long as no one leaves keep it as is. Currently we play everyone in football and everyone twice in basketball. That is perfect. Bigger is not always better.

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:32 am
by FU Hoopla
apaladin wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:23 pm
As long as no one leaves keep it as is. Currently we play everyone in football and everyone twice in basketball. That is perfect. Bigger is not always better.

Agree 100%, I was just looking at it from a sustainability side as those would be good additions to keep the league solid if anyone else does eventually leave, like maybe ETSU or UTC (both would be stupid to leave however)

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:35 am
by FU Hoopla
Are we all in agreement on if the league would add only 1 new school it should be W&M?

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:21 am
by Paul C
Off the cuff, I'd trade UTC and ETSU for W&M and Richmond.....

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:58 am
by FU Hoopla
Paul C wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:21 am
Off the cuff, I'd trade UTC and ETSU for W&M and Richmond.....
Same, but Richmond will not pull hoops out of the A10...

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:25 am
by FU Hoopla
Not SoCon expansion but could have some trickle effect across the country (certainly will out West):

Boise State among 4 schools joining Pac-12 for 2026-27 season
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... oin-pac-12

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:20 pm
by Affirm
FU Hoopla wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 10:25 am
Not SoCon expansion but could have some trickle effect across the country (certainly will out West):

Boise State among 4 schools joining Pac-12 for 2026-27 season
https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... oin-pac-12
Trickle down effect across the country possibly could include Mountain West bringing in the following:
Nevada-Reno (because of the state legislature pressure if UNLV and the Mountain West want to hook up but the legislature blocking that if the MWC will not bring in an upgraded (to FBS) Nevada-Reno also
North Dakota State
South Dakota State
South Dakota
North Dakota
Montana State
Montana

Then ... some of the next dominoes might fall with subsequent moves involving schools in conferences including Missouri Valley Conference, United Athletic Conference, Big South Conference, and, yes, Southern Conference, etc.

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:59 pm
by youwouldno
Going from FCS to G5 is not very appealing without knowing what the rules will even be. Very unlikely to see a short term surge of western programs moving up.

Re: Expanding the SoCon

PostPosted:Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:18 pm
by FU Hoopla
youwouldno wrote:
Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:59 pm
Going from FCS to G5 is not very appealing without knowing what the rules will even be. Very unlikely to see a short term surge of western programs moving up.
Could be true...
All depends on the $$$ of course