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Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:20 pm
by FUBF24
Now that everything has finally taken shape for this upcoming year, here are my thoughts/predictions for the SoCon:

Preseason rankings:
1. Furman
2. UNCG
3. WCU
4. Chattanooga
5. Samford
6. ETSU
7. Mercer
8. Wofford
9. The Citadel
10. VMI

SoCon Player of the Year: Tre Jackson, WCU or JP Pegues, Furman
SoCon Defensive Player of the Year: Keyshaun Langley, UNCG
Freshman/Newcomer of the Year: Riley Allenspach, Samford
Coach of the Year: Bob Richey

Furman will win the SoCon.

What do y'all predict will happen?

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:46 pm
by FU Hoopla
Looks pretty good!

I would flip Samford and UTC, one of the transfer guards for UTC is not eligible this season.........

Also Cooper Bowser is alot better than Riley Allenspach, if they go head to head at some point Bowser will dominate him ;)

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:12 am
by KingPaladin
FUBF24 wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2023 10:20 pm
Now that everything has finally taken shape for this upcoming year, here are my thoughts/predictions for the SoCon:

Preseason rankings:
1. Furman
2. UNCG
3. WCU
4. Chattanooga
5. Samford
6. ETSU
7. Mercer
8. Wofford
9. The Citadel
10. VMI

SoCon Player of the Year: Tre Jackson, WCU or JP Pegues, Furman
SoCon Defensive Player of the Year: Keyshaun Langley, UNCG
Freshman/Newcomer of the Year: Riley Allenspach, Samford
Coach of the Year: Bob Richey

Furman will win the SoCon.

What do y'all predict will happen?
POTY will be Vonterius Woolbright for Western. He'll run the point and can legitimately get a triple double

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:20 am
by FurmanFan23
Western is the best team in the SOCON for basketball hands down. Really concerned about them

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:59 am
by FUBF24
FurmanFan23 wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:20 am
Western is the best team in the SOCON for basketball hands down. Really concerned about them
Not too worried about WCU, we beat them last year by 34 points without Tyzhaun Claude.

However this year is a new year. I think we'll be okay, I trust our coaching and developmental system and good luck scoring on Cooper Bowser.

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:14 pm
by KingPaladin
FUBF24 wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:59 am
FurmanFan23 wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:20 am
Western is the best team in the SOCON for basketball hands down. Really concerned about them
Not too worried about WCU, we beat them last year by 34 points without Tyzhaun Claude.

However this year is a new year. I think we'll be okay, I trust our coaching and developmental system and good luck scoring on Cooper Bowser.
Bowser is pretty thin for defending, notable that we nearly lost to them with Claude, with Jalen Slawson guarding him. Their two guards will be the major players

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:15 pm
by KingPaladin
SoCon Write-up on ESPN

The last time the Catamounts played in the NCAA tournament, they nearly became the first true Cinderella: The 16-seed came within seconds of beating top-seeded Purdue in 1996. This season, the return of Tre Jackson (15.8 PPG) and Vonterius Woolbright (14.5 PPG) could help Western Carolina get back to the tournament for the first time in 28 years. Coach Justin Gray was just 12 years old the last time the Catamounts went to the Big Dance. The school might build a statue of him if he's able to take it back.

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:18 pm
by youwouldno
Pomeroy's pre-season rankings are out - WCU at #180 overall and 4th in the SoCon.

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 12:19 pm
by FU Hoopla
FurmanFan23 wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:20 am
Western is the best team in the SOCON for basketball hands down. Really concerned about them
The team that went 18-16 last year!?! ;)

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:12 pm
by FurmanFan23
They are returning a lot of really good players

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:32 pm
by youwouldno
Pomeroy's rankings include the projected performance of returning players.

The only returning WCU player who was reasonably efficient on offense last year is Jackson, a shortish SG with mediocre defense and limited driving ability.

Woolbright is a good passer but his decision making wavers and he can't shoot or score around the rim efficiently.

Also, the longer someone has played in college, the less rapidly they are likely to improve, so there is no particular reason to expect their veterans to take a huge step forward.

Catamounts are more likely to finish 5th in the SoCon than 1st . . . Pretty obvious for anyone that understands the underlying data and trends.

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:39 pm
by FU Hoopla
FurmanFan23 wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:12 pm
They are returning a lot of really good players
Not in the frontcourt, could be the worst frontcourt in the SoCon ;)

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:58 pm
by FurmanFan23
Woolbright I think along with KingPaladin will be the best SOCON player. I think the SOCON is between Furman and Western

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:14 pm
by Paul C
We are gonna struggle early. Tough Nov/Dec schedule with having to replace 2 of the best ever to play for us is a tall order. Need to find rotation, chemistry and leadership.

I think we will be fine come Jan and have as good or better chance as anyone to win the SoCon

I expect there will be some hyperbole and gnashing of teeth around here in mid-Dec when we could very well be 4-5, but all will be well.

Re: Final Thoughts/Questions Before Season

PostPosted:Wed Oct 18, 2023 8:21 pm
by RaleighDin
While I know you're right, I'm hoping the sheer amount of returnees we have that know our system will move things along a bit quicker. We won't just be deep, we'll be OLD.