Wofford and the Finals

[FUPlayer74]

Furman's endowment is 3 times the size of Wofford's. And Furman spends more on athletics than any other member of the Socon. I wouldn't poopoo Furman's commitment to athletics.

[Fessor]

Furman's endowment is 3 times the size of Wofford's. And Furman spends more on athletics than any other member of the Socon. I wouldn't poopoo Furman's commitment to athletics.

Does Furman have an endowment dedicated to athletics?

Coach Johnson gave $1 million to endow football (HC?); beyond that. I don't know of any endowments to athletics (tennis?). I'm sure there are some, but do they total $45 million?

[soconjohn]

Timmons? Hollingsworth? Stone? what did they give? Stone gave a bunch!!!

[soconjohn]

And I am not going to sit here in compare coaches...I think both Medved and Richey have benefitted Furman for who they are as people...I am so proud and appreciative of both of them...They cleaned up the crap storm left by Jackson faster than I ever thought possible.

[Fessor]

Furman's endowment is 3 times the size of Wofford's. And Furman spends more on athletics than any other member of the Socon. I wouldn't poopoo Furman's commitment to athletics.

Where do coaches' salaries rank in D-1? What percentile?

I don't know, but I do know that any coach with any success (other than those in sports with benefactors, e.g., X-Country/track) quickly bolts for greener pastures. So, the "commitment" must not equate to having competitive salaries. When Drake of all places can give your BB coach a 75-100% raise, then you need to ask yourself just how committed you really are.

[soconjohn]

Fessor, Drake plays in the Pioneer League and has non-scholarship football!!!!!

[Fessor]

Fessor, Drake plays in the Pioneer League and has non-scholarship football!!!!!

Wait, I thought football not only financed itself but financed all non-revenue sports as well?

You can't on the one hand say football is needed because it pays all the bills and on the other hand say it's a liability. Pick one.

[Affirm]

Furman's endowment is 3 times the size of Wofford's. And Furman spends more on athletics than any other member of the Socon. I wouldn't poopoo Furman's commitment to athletics.

I would.
And I highly doubt our ATHLETIC endowment is 3x theirs, even if our university endowment may be.

[FUPlayer74]

Doesn't matter if the funding comes from an " athletic" bucket or not. If Furman is spending $22million per year on sports, where do you think that money comes from?

[CharlieFU]

Fessor, Drake plays in the Pioneer League and has non-scholarship football!!!!!

Wait, I thought football not only financed itself but financed all non-revenue sports as well?

You can't on the one hand say football is needed because it pays all the bills and on the other hand say it's a liability. Pick one.

At a place like Drake (and Wichita state...) basketball is the only game in town. Resources can be devoted there in a way other schools cannot.

Football at FU clearly does not pay any bills.

[furpop16]

Football at FU clearly does not pay any bills.

Oops, Charlie. You know where this conversation is gonna go, now.

Is everybody okay if we have it in the off-season? We need to be focused on the business at hand!

[FU3]

Furman's endowment is 3 times the size of Wofford's. And Furman spends more on athletics than any other member of the Socon. I wouldn't poopoo Furman's commitment to athletics.

Where do coaches' salaries rank in D-1? What percentile?

I don't know, but I do know that any coach with any success (other than those in sports with benefactors, e.g., X-Country/track) quickly bolts for greener pastures. So, the "commitment" must not equate to having competitive salaries. When Drake of all places can give your BB coach a 75-100% raise, then you need to ask yourself just how committed you really are.

Doug Allison has been at Furman Soccer for 23 years, Andrew Barr has coached Women's Soccer for 15 years and by any measure both have had tremendous success. Like every small mid- major coaches are going to be poached at various times by folks with money to throw around. Mike Buddie has done a great job in putting athletics back on the front burner and appears to have the full support of the administration and Board of Trustees.

[Jasper]

And I am not going to sit here in compare coaches...I think both Medved and Richey have benefitted Furman for who they are as people...I am so proud and appreciative of both of them...They cleaned up the crap storm left by Jackson faster than I ever thought possible.

Niko Medved cleaned up Jackson's mess and he was rewarded for it by getting higher paying job offers. That's the way stuff works.

[FUBeAR]

Football at FU clearly does not pay any bills.

Oops, Charlie. You know where this conversation is gonna go, now.

Is everybody okay if we have it in the off-season? We need to be focused on the business at hand!

No.

FUBeAR is never OK with ever having any conversation here even remotely related to the topic to which the prior post alludes. Furman Football will never recede in any way whatsoever and continuing to even bring up the topic is a waste of keystrokes, pixels, and Stumpy's storage capacity.

BTW - Drake HAS a Football Team...and they darn near beat a P5 / Big 12 Iowa State Team just this past season.
BTW2 - https://shockernet.net/register & https://www.drakenation.com/Register.as ... 54frjgvfrr...enjoy yourselves!

GO FURMAN BASKETBALL!
#FUATT

[Fessor]

#FUATT

Just figured this out.

Couldn't understand why we would have a beef with a telecom provider, er, media company.