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Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:36 pm
by Davemeister
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Tue Jul 23, 2024 4:50 pm
by apaladin
Prolly a little high but it looks and sounds good. I do like that VMI(7) is picked ahead of WC(8). Only 2 players on first team offense and defense. Only Samford and Citadel had less. Wofford has 4 and VMI 3 on the first team.
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:48 pm
by The Jackal
I suspect the second slot was neither surprising nor unsurprising. Some are docking Furman because they lost a lot of guys off last year's team.
Coach Hendrix addressed some of the concerns during the media availability. He noted Furman's program is built on recruiting, depth, and development. The team is built to rely on older players. Some of those guys did not see playing time last year due only to having a deep roster in front of them. They were ready to play.
I go back to the same question - who is clearly better than Furman right now?
The only team selected ahead of Furman this preseason was UTC - a team Furman beat twice last year.
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:28 am
by apaladin
No media poll?
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:02 am
by 'Din Djarin
I both love and hate that Furman was picked 2nd
Hate - There isn't a team in the 2024 SoCon that scares me as a Furman fan. We have our 3 toughest games (based on last year's results) at home (UTC, Samford, WCU), and of those 3 only UTC gives me pause. Frankly, after beating them on the road and then thoroughly CrockPotting them in the playoffs, I have respect but zero fear for the Mocs. WCU lost their head coach and a lot of their offensive talent, and I feel confident that Furman can handle them and Samford at home. Mercer on the road is dodgy, but no more Drew Cronic? I feel a lot less threatened by the Bears.
Love - Hopefully the team not only uses this as motivation but it also means we don't start the season with a huge target on our back. Furman definitely lost a lot of starting experience but the team was already so deep and the folks filling in have a lot of game experience. I think Carson Jones has tremendous upside and I expect he will be QB1.
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:30 am
by Davemeister
WCU's Kerwin Bell was at the event yesterday.
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Wed Jul 24, 2024 12:42 pm
by FUBeAR
'Din Djarin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:02 am
I both love and hate that Furman was picked 2nd
Hate - There isn't a team in the 2024 SoCon that scares me as a Furman fan. We have our 3 toughest games (
based on last year's results) at home (UTC, Samford, WCU), and of those 3 only UTC gives me pause. Frankly, after beating them on the road and then thoroughly CrockPotting them in the playoffs, I have respect but
zero fear for the Mocs. WCU lost their head coach and a lot of their offensive talent, and I feel confident that Furman can handle them and Samford at home. Mercer on the road is dodgy, but no more Drew Cronic? I feel a lot less threatened by the Bears.
Love - Hopefully the team not only uses this as motivation but it also means we don't start the season with a huge target on our back. Furman definitely lost a lot of starting experience but the team was already so deep and the folks filling in have a lot of game experience. I think Carson Jones has tremendous upside and I expect he will be QB1.
Assuming you are referencing only score differentials vs. Furman when you mention “last year’s results” instead of how the Teams finished in the SoCon, national rankings, and/or Playoff participation and success.
On all 3 of those metrics, Mercer was at the least on par with, if not ahead of, UTC, Samford, and WCU.
https://soconsports.com/fb/standings/
2023 Season
Furman 7-1 .875 10-3 .769
Mercer 6-2 .750 9-4 .692
Chattanooga 6-2 .750 8-5 .615
Western Carolina 5-3 .625 7-4 .636
Samford 4-4 .500 6-5 .545
VMI 4-4 .500 5-6 .455
ETSU 2-6 .250 3-8 .273
Wofford 2-6 .250 2-9 .182
The Citadel 0-8 .000 0-11 .000
If you ARE referencing only score differentials from “last year’s results,” then, shouldn’t Wofford be cited as one of the “toughest games” that we do, also, have at home in 2024? #ConsistencyMatters
Also, WCU lost their OC, Kade Bell to Pittsburgh, not Papa Kerwin Bell. OC Bell took their top RB and a top WR to the Panthers with him.
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:08 pm
by The Jackal
My general read of the room is that Furman is still the program the rest of the conference is chasing right now.
I feel comfortable in saying that Furman is going to consistently turn out a quality defensive football team. Furman has been the top or among the top defenses in the conference for years now. I do not really see any reason why that would stop this year.
My guess is the teams Furman needs to be on high alert for are the solid defensive teams that can force Furman to play an ugly football game, particularly on the road.
While our potentially toughest opponents are coming to Greenville, we do have to play some generally good defensive football teams on the road this season (The Citadel, Mercer, VMI, ETSU). Even if out-manned, those are the type of teams - like Wofford did last year - that can potentially force Furman out of their game plan to see who can win a rock fight.
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:41 pm
by Davemeister
The SoCon coaches take a poll every year. Sometimes they get it right, other times wrong. It's only rock & roll.
Personally I think they did us a favor. I would rather see the Paladins enter Conference play with a chip on their shoulder than go in thinking they are King S#*t.
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:22 pm
by FurmanATT
A test for the #Paladins program. Room to step up. -- MD
https://wellpilgrim.wordpress.com/2024/ ... -aim-high/
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:58 pm
by apaladin
Watched the interview with CCH. Let’s just say he was not bubbling over with confidence.
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:05 pm
by gman84
He read your overly positive posts the past 6 months.
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Thu Jul 25, 2024 1:06 am
by gofurman
The Jackal wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:48 pm
I suspect the second slot was neither surprising nor unsurprising. Some are docking Furman because they lost a lot of guys off last year's team.
Coach Hendrix addressed some of the concerns during the media availability. He noted Furman's program is built on recruiting, depth, and development. The team is built to rely on older players. Some of those guys did not see playing time last year due only to having a deep roster in front of them. They were ready to play.
I go back to the same question - who is clearly better than Furman right now?
The only team selected ahead of Furman this preseason was UTC - a team Furman beat twice last year.
Again, close win the first time. Second time no Person, at least once no Quay Wiggles. No star DB. etc. They were beat up. It showed. Just like an injured Huff and Roberto rendered us a different team vs dammmm Wofford - especially in 63 scholarships FCS injuries matter a lot
This time they have Wiggles etc for now. Glad UTC is at home. That Chatt game could be a big one.
Anyway. Too early to know a ton. Other than tiers
I’d say. Furman, UTC, Samford (? Hope they are bad)…. then Mercer (new coach), Western, ETSU… Wofford ( better this year), Citadel, VMI
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Thu Jul 25, 2024 1:07 am
by gofurman
gofurman wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 1:06 am
The Jackal wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 10:48 pm
I suspect the second slot was neither surprising nor unsurprising. Some are docking Furman because they lost a lot of guys off last year's team.
Coach Hendrix addressed some of the concerns during the media availability. He noted Furman's program is built on recruiting, depth, and development. The team is built to rely on older players. Some of those guys did not see playing time last year due only to having a deep roster in front of them. They were ready to play.
I go back to the same question - who is clearly better than Furman right now?
The only team selected ahead of Furman this preseason was UTC - a team Furman beat twice last year.
Again, close UTC win the first time. Second time no Person, at least once no Quay Wiggles. No star DB. etc. They were beat up. It showed. Just like an injured Huff and Roberto rendered us a different team vs dammmm Wofford - especially in 63 scholarships FCS injuries matter a lot
This time they have Wiggles etc for now. Glad UTC is at home. That Chatt game could be a big one.
Anyway. Too early to know a ton. Other than tiers
I’d say. Furman, UTC, Samford (? Hope they are bad)….
then Mercer (new coach), Western, ETSU…
Wofford ( better this year), Citadel, VMI
Re: Coaches Pick Furman Second
PostPosted:Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:58 am
by Roundball
apaladin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:58 pm
Watched the interview with CCH. Let’s just say he was not bubbling over with confidence.
You don’t know Coach Hendrix and his manner of speaking very well. Are you trying to be funny and sarcastic again?