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If you think UIW can beat NDSU, why would you think there is a “gap” between Furman and NDSU? Furman was a brief, light tug on the back of a jersey away from beating UIW.purplehorse123 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:03 pmSome very good teams at top. At present I think there is a gap between Furman and NDSU, SDSU, and Montana State. Maybe a few other teams but I think those 3 are very strong.
Of course I am hoping UIW beats UNDS and I think they can do it.
Good question. Seems contradictory a little even to me.FUBeAR wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:39 pmIf you think UIW can beat NDSU, why would you think there is a “gap” between Furman and NDSU? Furman was a brief, light tug on the back of a jersey away from beating UIW.purplehorse123 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:03 pmSome very good teams at top. At present I think there is a gap between Furman and NDSU, SDSU, and Montana State. Maybe a few other teams but I think those 3 are very strong.
Of course I am hoping UIW beats UNDS and I think they can do it.
Fair enough. Good answer.purplehorse123 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:46 pmGood question. Seems contradictory a little even to me.FUBeAR wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:39 pmIf you think UIW can beat NDSU, why would you think there is a “gap” between Furman and NDSU? Furman was a brief, light tug on the back of a jersey away from beating UIW.purplehorse123 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:03 pmSome very good teams at top. At present I think there is a gap between Furman and NDSU, SDSU, and Montana State. Maybe a few other teams but I think those 3 are very strong.
Of course I am hoping UIW beats UNDS and I think they can do it.
I don’t think NDSU is quite as good this year based on my non-expert opinion of the NDSU-Sammy game. Their offense is largely a grind-it-out run over pass. I just think UIW with their more explosive offense can beat NDSU. I think UIW matches up well with NDSU.
As far as the 3 superior teams of NDSU, SDSU and Montana State I think I am mixing in the evaluation of their programs also. No doubt they are all loaded with talent. They were all in the semis last year. SDSU has been in semis 5 of last 6 and 3 in a row. We all know about NDSU 9 of the last 11. Montana State was in championship game last year and of course they are extremely tough to beat in Bozeman. It just seems program and recent history wise, they are the top teams. Who knows what UIW will be next year without coach, Lindsey Scott etc.
Again with my non-expert opinion, I wonder if FU would do better against NDSU this year (and would have a chance to beat them) vs Montana State (weather factored in) or SDSU. I think the “gap” with NDSU is more program, history, maybe overall talent than the score of a single NDSU-FU game per se this year. I think we would have a chance.
That may or may not explain my thoughts more clearly.
Anyway, I would love to see UIW win it all and I think they could do it.
Amen! And our performance in playoffs this year will help us heading into next year. The system is flawed for sure but we have to play by the rules. I will be extremely disappointed if they don’t make some changes in the playoffs after the “exposure” this year.FUBeAR wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:58 pmFair enough. Good answer.purplehorse123 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 6:46 pmGood question. Seems contradictory a little even to me.FUBeAR wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:39 pmIf you think UIW can beat NDSU, why would you think there is a “gap” between Furman and NDSU? Furman was a brief, light tug on the back of a jersey away from beating UIW.purplehorse123 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 10, 2022 3:03 pmSome very good teams at top. At present I think there is a gap between Furman and NDSU, SDSU, and Montana State. Maybe a few other teams but I think those 3 are very strong.
Of course I am hoping UIW beats UNDS and I think they can do it.
I don’t think NDSU is quite as good this year based on my non-expert opinion of the NDSU-Sammy game. Their offense is largely a grind-it-out run over pass. I just think UIW with their more explosive offense can beat NDSU. I think UIW matches up well with NDSU.
As far as the 3 superior teams of NDSU, SDSU and Montana State I think I am mixing in the evaluation of their programs also. No doubt they are all loaded with talent. They were all in the semis last year. SDSU has been in semis 5 of last 6 and 3 in a row. We all know about NDSU 9 of the last 11. Montana State was in championship game last year and of course they are extremely tough to beat in Bozeman. It just seems program and recent history wise, they are the top teams. Who knows what UIW will be next year without coach, Lindsey Scott etc.
Again with my non-expert opinion, I wonder if FU would do better against NDSU this year (and would have a chance to beat them) vs Montana State (weather factored in) or SDSU. I think the “gap” with NDSU is more program, history, maybe overall talent than the score of a single NDSU-FU game per se this year. I think we would have a chance.
That may or may not explain my thoughts more clearly.
Anyway, I would love to see UIW win it all and I think they could do it.
Gotta get those 3 out of their natural habitats in December, at least half the time, to fairly gauge them against FU et al.
Top 5 in the SoCon. FUBeAR is confident you are correct about that…National Top 10…
I “should be careful what I wish for”, but at least I wish to note that (1) it is good we get to play at least 2 of those 16 next year, and (2) we get a third one, W&M, onto our schedule in 2024.FUBeAR wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:35 amTop 5 in the SoCon. FUBeAR is confident you are correct about that…National Top 10…
This seems more likely…
NDSU
SDSU
MontSt
SacSt
WeberSt
Mont
W&M
HC
UIW
NDak
YoungstownSt
Idaho
Samford
New Hampshire
UC Davis
Chattanooga
1-16 Above (in no particular order)
17. Furman
Not FUBeAR’s rankings; FUBeAR’s expectations of what the rankings will be.AstroDin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 7:50 amFuBear… are you pulling our leg - picking Chatty ranked above Furman pre-season 2023? Heck, what do I know? UIW, will probably get the benefit of this season but don't they lose almost the entire team to graduation?
IMO, W&M doesn't belong in any top ten discussions-they got boat-raced. HC proved they belonged. You're probably right, though, about YSU. I bet they get a ton of pre-season love.
I hope we see Furman in or near the top 10. Sadly, I think Weber gets in the top ten over the Dins.
It's been a while since Furman has matched up as well against such teams. The Paladins play that way. -- MDgman84 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 6:34 pmWhat stands out to me about these top FCS teams, NDSU, SDSt and Montana State is they don’t beat themselves. They are not flashy. They run the ball extremely well and they almost never shoot themselves in the feet. I know it sounds basic but that is a major reason for their repeated success, and the fact that they almost NEVER go on the road.