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NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Mon Jun 21, 2021 12:34 pm
by FU3
Supreme Court ruled in a 9-0 decision to allow athletes to receive additional benefits. Going to be interesting.
“Everyone agrees that the NCAA can require student athletes to be enrolled students in good standing,” Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote. “But the NCAA’s business model of using unpaid student athletes to generate billions of dollars in revenue for the colleges raises serious questions under the antitrust laws.”

Re: NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:28 pm
by apaladin
Just another stupid decision. Those billions are shared by a small group. What about the other 300 D1 schools?

Re: NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:42 pm
by FU3
The decision made perfect sense. They have violated antitrust laws for their benefit for decades. Any other multi billion dollar enterprise engaging in similar actions would have been sued long ago.

Re: NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:59 pm
by FUBeAR
Those Teams/Schools “generating billions of dollars of revenue” need to depart the NCAA & work their business model as other businesses / professional sports leagues operate. 65 schools in P5…maybe a handful of others. Nothing but hypocrisy for them to continue to portray and/or think of themselves as amateur Athletics programs.

The remaining ~1,200 NCAA member schools still operate amateur Athletics Programs & can work, more or less, within the existing framework.

Re: NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:41 pm
by Roundball
Is it possible that if those teams making the billions leave the NCAA, they will no longer play teams like Furman, which will effectively kill FCS football?

Re: NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:52 pm
by FU3
Or mid major basketball?

Re: NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:15 pm
by Furmanoid
Roundball wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:41 pm
Is it possible that if those teams making the billions leave the NCAA, they will no longer play teams like Furman, which will effectively kill FCS football?
Those would be straight up pro teams with perhaps less salary restrictions than the NFL . No draft, players will just go to the highest bidder. (Of course salaries will be laundered by business men boosters paying for “endorsements”). Would we want to play them? It will be way more embarrassing than what we’re used to. Maybe better to just ween ourselves off of the money games.

Re: NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:32 am
by apaladin
Furmanoid wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:15 pm
Roundball wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:41 pm
Is it possible that if those teams making the billions leave the NCAA, they will no longer play teams like Furman, which will effectively kill FCS football?
Those would be straight up pro teams with perhaps less salary restrictions than the NFL . No draft, players will just go to the highest bidder. (Of course salaries will be laundered by business men boosters paying for “endorsements”). Would we want to play them? It will be way more embarrassing than what we’re used to. Maybe better to just ween ourselves off of the money games.
Regardless of how they are paid, recruited etc. they will still be the same players so I see no need to stop playing them. Just because they are getting paid doesn’t make them super human players. FWIW the big boys are already paying players anyway.

Re: NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:22 am
by Furmanoid
Maybe, but I suspect the talent level of G5 may dip closer to FCS while the P5 will get way better. If G5 conferences don’t do the image and likeness scam, their top teams will lose their best recruits to people like Kansas and Rutgers who have always sucked but whose non NCAA rules will allow them to pay whatever it takes. Even big name teams will be out of luck if they aren’t willing to pay up. So the fear, obviously shared by NCAA, is that the new system will leave us with a group of pro super teams and then a big drop off to the next level. FU will be another level down from that. And if the super teams aren’t even NCAA, then the FCS pay games really are just exhibitions. They wouldn’t make any sense. Oh, and there is no chance the officiating would be on the up and up, is there? There is no way they would let us win even if we somehow competed.

Re: NCAA Court Case

PostPosted:Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:32 am
by Roundball
More about basketball, but did not want to start another thread on the same subject. "Supreme Court’s NCAA ruling indicates bigger changes may be ahead." https://www.midmajormadness.com/2021/6/ ... ion-column