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Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:58 pm
by Flagman
Financial commitments that fans make toward athletics (Paladin Club, Charge Forward, FFPA, Roundball Club, season tickets, etc.) may be in jeopardy if the university doesn't make a commitment to participating in sports.
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:13 pm
by Paul C
where'd that come from?
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:28 pm
by Flagman
Just out of the blue. Just a thought. If I thought it, I’m sure others are thinking the same. I wonder how much we’ve lost in contributions due to the baseball/lacrosse decision.
Just saying.
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:16 pm
by Paul C
Where do you rank making Bob Richey the highest paid basketball coach in the SoCon and his staff, the highest paid staff, in the heirarchy of "commitments to athletics"?
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:44 pm
by Flagman
I'm more interested in a commitment to allowing fans to enjoy the games. When will we get any news about plans? The SoCon AD's and faculty reps met this week and discussed schedules, etc., but still no announcements. Where's the transparency? Fans want to know. We still don't have a basketball schedule, nor if fans will be allowed.
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:46 pm
by Sad Din
Wow. A rare show of weakness by FM. Usually on the other end of those comments
Way to go FM!
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:35 pm
by apaladin
Flagman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:28 pm
Just out of the blue. Just a thought. If I thought it, I’m sure others are thinking the same. I wonder how much we’ve lost in contributions due to the baseball/lacrosse decision.
Just saying.
I think we can safely say the baseball/lacrosse decisions has/will cost the university more that it saved.
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:10 am
by Roundball
apaladin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:35 pm
Flagman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:28 pm
Just out of the blue. Just a thought. If I thought it, I’m sure others are thinking the same. I wonder how much we’ve lost in contributions due to the baseball/lacrosse decision.
Just saying.
I think we can safely say the baseball/lacrosse decisions has/will cost the university more that it saved.
You can say it, but that doesn’t make it so. No one knows. What we do know is the virus has cost all universities millions.
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:38 am
by CharlieFU
A lack of communication about future plans or the b-ball schedule is not evidence of a lack of commitment. Cutting baseball and lacrosse may suggest that to some people. But I see an effort to save athletics as an important part of the university experience for students and fans. Say what you want about Pres Davis, but she knows numbers. And something had to be done.
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:08 am
by Furmanoid
If FM’s mind isn’t right, that isn’t a good sign.
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:42 am
by gofurman
Paul C wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:16 pm
Where do you rank making Bob Richey the highest paid basketball coach in the SoCon and his staff, the highest paid staff, in the heirarchy of "commitments to athletics"?
If you ask the general fan or person on the street, the cutting of the baseball program ranks way (way!
) above the pay of the basketball staff in terms of commitment. That is fact...Not saying it was wrong or right but perception IS reality. And I know people who don't pay much attention to FU athletics but know I am a fan who mentioned the baseball thing to me.. they have no idea how much we pay coaches but they know we cut baseball. In a PR sense that hurt a LOT. Probably necessary but it hurt.
My hope is that maybe we can reinstate the baseball program but if not that we are a top-flight FCS football and D1 basketball program going forward.. That will ease the pain a lot
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:06 am
by Fred Garvin
E.D. knows numbers........
1. Enrollment smaller.....that Furman Advantage works!
2. + 60% female enrollment
3. Baseball was a Title IX casualty in the long run
Give E.D. five more years and we will be Converse....
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:02 pm
by apaladin
Fred Garvin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:06 am
E.D. knows numbers........
1. Enrollment smaller.....that Furman Advantage works!
2. + 60% female enrollment
3. Baseball was a Title IX casualty in the long run
Give E.D. five more years and we will be Converse....
I know that last line was tongue in cheek but it is at the same time scary,
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:32 pm
by FUKA61
Article in today's AJC said that freshman enrollment at universities was down 16%. I think Furman's current enrollment is just over 2,300. The pandemic has created a huge financial challenge for Furman and other schools
Re: Financial Commitments
PostPosted:Fri Oct 16, 2020 6:54 pm
by Roundball
gofurman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:42 am
Paul C wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:16 pm
Where do you rank making Bob Richey the highest paid basketball coach in the SoCon and his staff, the highest paid staff, in the heirarchy of "commitments to athletics"?
If you ask the general fan or person on the street, the cutting of the baseball program ranks way (way!
) above the pay of the basketball staff in terms of commitment. That is fact...Not saying it was wrong or right but perception IS reality. And I know people who don't pay much attention to FU athletics but know I am a fan who mentioned the baseball thing to me.. they have no idea how much we pay coaches but they know we cut baseball. In a PR sense that hurt a LOT. Probably necessary but it hurt.
My hope is that maybe we can reinstate the baseball program but if not that we are a top-flight FCS football and D1 basketball program going forward.. That will ease the pain a lot
The general fan or the person on the street never supported Furman baseball. Their opinion means nothing. However, if anyone says the cutting of baseball ranks above the pay of the basketball staff in terms of commitment, they have no clue about college athletic budgets.