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POLLS-UPDATED

PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:50 pm
by apaladin
Furman drops 2 spots in Coaches poll to number 15, drops one spot to #16 in STATS poll.

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:53 pm
by The Jackal
Good news is that two consecutive losses to FBS programs really didn't do much harm to us in the polls.

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:13 pm
by MidlandsPaladin
Wow - if I’m seeing things correctly, not only did Woffy drop out of the Coaches Poll, but they didn’t even receive any votes. How long has it been since that happened?

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:33 pm
by apaladin
MidlandsPaladin wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:13 pm
Wow - if I’m seeing things correctly, not only did Woffy drop out of the Coaches Poll, but they didn’t even receive any votes. How long has it been since that happened?
That is correct, no votes for WC in coaches. They did get some in the STATS poll that would put them at #32. Citadel broke into the STATS poll at #25 but not in the coaches poll.(29)

Polls

PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:00 pm
by Sand1efan

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:07 pm
by FUBeAR
FUBeAR has the Paladins @ #4 (where they belong)...up from #7 last week, which was down from #6 the week before

FWIW... For some context around other Teams of comparative value interest, FUBeAR has...

Towson @ #7
Central Arkansas @ #9 (a shaky #9)
Kennesaw @ #11 (probably an undeserved #11, but it is what it shall be)
SELA @ #12
JaxSt @ #14
E*Loan @ #18
APSU @ #19, up from #24 last week
CIT @ #20

NCA&T unranked, but close, down from #25 last week
Mercer unranked, down from #20 last week; still Top 30 though
ETSU unranked, WAY down from #22 last week
No other SoCon Teams ranked or close

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:17 pm
by tya1
Polls are fun.

We have now hit the part of the season where polls don't matter. They may matter again in November. Let's make them irrelevant.

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:56 pm
by Davemeister
tya1 wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:17 pm
Polls are fun.

We have now hit the part of the season where polls don't matter. They may matter again in November. Let's make them irrelevant.
Yes.

Win our playoff berth on the field and let others worry about who gets selected and who doesn't.

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:00 pm
by gofurman
Actually we are 17 in STATS. Coaches 15. They take a while to update

AGS guys have us 12 I think

http://www.fcs.football/cfb/polls.asp?week=03&div=1aa

https://www.anygivensaturday.com/showth ... 019-SEASON
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/ ... aches-poll

WIN SOCON. but polls matter. You can earn an At large based on polls. It also affects next year as you start higher like this year where 1-2 and we are ranked top 20!

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:01 pm
by Flagman
Do these people even consider the opponent, or do they just look at the result?

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:40 pm
by gofurman
Flagman wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:01 pm
Do these people even consider the opponent, or do they just look at the result?
Sometimes I really wonder if they have much knowledge of opponent.

Interesting to me is the ranking order:

AGS (people fans like us who watch games) - Furman 12
Coaches (at least know conference opponents) - Furman 15
STATS - media guys - Furman 17

In any case you can see we are gaining recognition and name again. That helps a lot w each year for at-large and in case of losing streak. If we had started unranked we would be unranked now but as we started ranked we still are as we should be

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:57 pm
by Flagman
gofurman wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:40 pm
Flagman wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:01 pm
Do these people even consider the opponent, or do they just look at the result?
Sometimes I really wonder if they have much knowledge of opponent.

Interesting to me is the ranking order:

AGS (people fans like us who watch games) - Furman 12
Coaches (at least know conference opponents) - Furman 15
STATS - media guys - Furman 17

In any case you can see we are gaining recognition and name again. That helps a lot w each year for at-large and in case of losing streak. If we had started unranked we would be unranked now but as we started ranked we still are as we should be
We'll probably lose to Mercer. They scare me. They may be unranked and got creamed by Austin Pee last week, but they still scare me.



Not !!!

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PostPosted:Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:04 pm
by gofurman
Flagman wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:57 pm
gofurman wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:40 pm
Flagman wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:01 pm
Do these people even consider the opponent, or do they just look at the result?
Sometimes I really wonder if they have much knowledge of opponent.

Interesting to me is the ranking order:

AGS (people fans like us who watch games) - Furman 12
Coaches (at least know conference opponents) - Furman 15
STATS - media guys - Furman 17

In any case you can see we are gaining recognition and name again. That helps a lot w each year for at-large and in case of losing streak. If we had started unranked we would be unranked now but as we started ranked we still are as we should be
We'll probably lose to Mercer. They scare me. They may be unranked and got creamed by Austin Pee last week, but they still scare me.



Not !!!

Not being narcissistic but is that directed at me? I hope not. Not appreciated. If not no worries but it does sound a lot like what I have been posting so I suspect so.

Also, I took the time to give you a detail answer to your question... giving a list of the polls and who votes and where we stand .. and you come back and heckle me for my efforts? BAD FORM

I am entitled to my opinion. for what it’s worth as Jackal said when you have -3 or so turnover ratio you get CREAMED. Well Mercer had - FOUR turnover ratio and still put up 34 points and was in the game w APeay. 3 turnovers and a blocked punt. They shouldn’t even be in game w NEGATIVE FOUR TURNOVER RATIO. I was the one who said we couldn’t contain GSU. Many disagreed w me. I got PMs about our plan to contain Ellington the QB and how it would work. Still waiting for that plan. Still... waiting... 48-42 we had no answer. And that same GSU team just lost to mighty mighty Western Michigan by FIFTY SEVEN to FREAKIN TEN. . You could give us an SEC DE and Deion Sanders we couldn’t hold GSU to 10. It’s just not in our pass D DNA. We like to lay back and watched him carve us up. Now that said, we greatly improved vs VT. Greatly. But how does it take coaches who have been doing this stuff TWENTY YEARS an entire game to figure out that D vs GSU where you let a strong QB get comfortable doesn’t work?

I hope we kill Mercer. I really do. I just know if you had told me our D coaches would run the SAME DAM defense vs GSU after 4 consecutive TDs by them I woulda stood behind our coaches and said “no way, I have faith that SURELY our coaches are far too smart for that”. Apparently I was wrong. Four consecutive TDS and we continued not to blitz much and watch them hang two more consecutive TDs. What’s the very definition of insanity? DOING THE SAME THING AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT. We have a great great team who I love and pull for but we are capable of letting passing teams score AT ANY TIME.

It’s just a matchup thing.

I hope we win. But don’t ever tell me passing teams aren’t a threat etc. Bobby Johnson was a defensive mastermind!!! He was an all time great ! Yet he dropped playoff games to throwing teams in 99 and 2000 and could barely get by not-much-talent UTC because of the air raid they employed. One year we had a super team under Bobby Johnson and beat UNC etc and yet around same time we held on vs UTC 40-35.

I want to kill Mercer. Kill. Lol. But I respect BL and as PaulC agreed BL is a great coach when he has a great QB (more than most as that is his MO). And BL said Riddle is best QB he has had since Ingle Martin. And I believe him be he hasn’t said that since Ingle. He doesn’t sugar blow. If BL says that about Riddle I believe him.

The key here is to stop the run of Devezin and get to Riddle a lot and hit him all day. AP was able to get in the backfield. Blitz and get all up in their grill and make them uncomfortable.

Just saying numbers can be deceiving- when you only lose by 14 w minus four TO ratio.. that can be misleading. Georgia State had a similar turnover ratio at western Michigan and lost by 47

And for those that think I’m scared of every opponent I just respect them all. Hello VMI ETSU. We are all close enough in talent to to win at any time. But to show I am objective in my assessment I would rather play we-just-beat-GT Citadel as. A running team than Mercer. We are masters at stopping option!!!. Right now I see Furman, Citadel, Samford and Mercer as top possible teams. I think we win vs ETSU after this game so I really want this one to start a run!!!

Let’s Go paladins!!! Beat Mercer !!!

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PostPosted:Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:10 am
by Paul C
gofurman wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:04 pm
But I respect BL and as PaulC agreed BL is a great coach when he has a great QB (more than most as that is his MO).
not being narcissistic but are you referencing me?

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PostPosted:Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:15 am
by gman84
If this team plays to it's potential, there will be no question or problem with the polls. I'm not a narcissist, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night!