• 2023 Recruiting Diamond Cha23rs

 #59253  by FUBeAR
 Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:55 am
Dins&Heels wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:37 am
The Jackal wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:31 am
Just saw another offer pop up over the last few days. I believe this kid is a QB.

Not at all surprising who extended his 5th offer…
UNLV
ECU
UMass

…were 1st 3 offers.
 #59291  by AstroDin
 Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:17 am
First, I could be way off…

I think we're seeing some shifts in what Furman is looking for, offensively-especially skill positions.

Quarterback—I hate to assume, but at this moment, I'm not expecting Jace Wilson's return.
Next season, Furman will have two returning scholarship quarterbacks.
SR Tyler Huff 6-1 208, and RSFR Carson Jones 6-2 205.

Furman has stepped up with offers to QBs.
Nehuel Garcia 6-3 190 - CA
EthanWashington 6-3 190 - GA
Amari Odom 6-5 180 - NC
Roper is following a bunch of QBs every one is at least 6-2. And many also play basketball.

Granted, we're not finished watching the first season of a JR-coached offense. IMO, a quarterback that can run is an important element in the Paladin offense. Mattew Sluka at Holy Cross has rushed for over 100 yards three times in 2022, and he rushed for more than 100 yards four times in 2021 under Roper. Huff has rushed for 94 (NGU), 98 (ETSU), 63 (WCU), and Chatty (134).

Furman has two commitments for TE. Brock Chappel 6-5 245, Brennan Tormey 6-7 220. Both are taller than any current TE or WR on the current roster. Furman has also offered several wide receivers in the 6-4 range. I know it's not all about length…

Furman also has offered several slot/receiver/athletes similar build to Ben Ferguson 5-11 200.
Furman's running back interest this recruiting year appears to be on more scat-back RB/Slot types.

My guess or hope is that with a coach like Justin Roper, a true QB coach that can develop QBs, Furman is attractive to QBs. I also believe that Roper's offense is very attractive to many skilled players.

One more note Furman OL coach Matt McCutchan is all over the place recruiting. Brody Balliew is a nice first offensive line commit.

Wondering out loud—is Eriq George really considering Furman? Yep, Eriq is Eddie George's son. George lists and has posted his official offer from Furman. This is typically only posted by players who've committed. George also follows Furman's commits Bussey and Albai.
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 #59297  by The Jackal
 Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:17 pm
I could be way off, but I'd be interested to know whether the two TE recruits are expected to stay at TE.

I do think you can see this season that Roper is going to want two TEs. It's been a long time since Furman actively ran a two TE set, and we do it a bunch this season.
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 #59330  by The Jackal
 Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:13 am
Just for off week curiosity sake, I looked over the roster with an eye towards next year.

I believe that all of the "grad transfers" came to Furman with at least two years of eligibility. I've understood Hendrix before to state that Furman wasn't taking one semester and done players. So, I am operating under the assumption that all of our grad transfers will also have eligibility next fall (though I could be mistaken).

There are a chunk of players still impacted by COVID's extra year of eligibility. By now, though, I believe most Furman players have "reclassified" their graduation year by this point. Note, I believe the COVID rules allows players that had their season impacted by COVID in the fall of 2021 to gain an extra year of eligibility (i.e., have 6 seasons to play 4 full seasons)

Honestly, when I started looking at the roster - the most veteran group we've had in Hendrix's tenure - I expected to see a lot of losses to graduation. With our new master's program, though, I'm almost seeing that Furman could return just about this entire team next year.

Of course, every season we'll lose players. Some graduate or move on with life after football. Some will transfer. That happens every season. This is how I understand the state of the roster, though:

QB: Huff would return with some combination of Jones and Wilson. With transfer rules now common, though, even big power schools struggle to go three deep at QB.

RB: Abrams is the only senior listed at RB. However, I still think he has eligibility (this is only his third full season after redshirting in '18 + COVID). Either way, the RB room is stacked - Roberto, Hicks, Robinson, Smith.

WR: The only senior on the two deep is Shiflett. However, I think he still has eligibility - played for MTSU in '18, redshirted in '19, didn't play in '20 - so, this would be his third full season. Even if he doesn't return, this could be the deepest Furman receiving corps in ages next season.

OL: Tomlin is the only listed senior on the two-deep. Again, I think he has eligibility remaining. Tomlin is getting some NFL buzz, so who knows. In theory, Furman could return the entire two deep on (IMO) the SoCon's best offensive line.

TE: Miller might have eligibility, but seems like this is likely his last year as a Paladin. He too has NFL buzz. Gissinger should return as well as some of the lesser used TEs like Youngblood and Henderson. Of course, you're seeing Furman hit this position hard in recruiting.

DL: Coleman and Johnson are both listed as seniors. Again, I think both technically still have eligibility. Sochovka, too, is listed as a grad student and, I think, could play another year if he wanted after being granted a medical redshirt last year.

BAN: Clark and Maier would return with multiple years of eligibility left.

SPUR: Every SPUR on the roster has eligibility remaining

ILB: Gilby is the only listed senior on the two deep. Again, should have eligibility left. Everyone else on a deep group should return.

CB: The only senior listed is Blackshear. Like the others, I believe he still has eligibility. Everyone else should return.

FS: Both FS on the depth chart have eligibility.

SS: Both SS have eligibility to return. Dae'one Wilkins is listed as a senior, but theoretically could be awarded a medical redshirt this year and might have multiple years of eligibility.

K: Every specialist could return.


I don't believe all potentially eligible players will return. That never happens. However, it may explain a bit why Furman has only 8 commits to this point (they had 11 sign last season in the December portion). It could be that the coaching staff expects at least a few of these older guys to maybe enter the master's program after graduation (like Sochovka did).

Even then, it looks like Furman could return a very experienced and very good team next season.
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 #59493  by AstroDin
 Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:31 am
Jackal— we should have two scholarship slots to fill at OL from last season. Per your comments not sure how many, if any, extra slots Furman will fill at OL. Furman has one OT commitment, and I agree with Jackal. I think one of the TEs will play OT — my guess is it's Chappell at 6-5 245. He's got the frame to be a twin tower with other OT recruit Balliew (6-5 275).

Furman also has a slot to fill from last year. Due to DE commitment, Pilon decided not to enroll. Furman has offered a bunch of DEs. Bussey is committed (6-3 246), and Alabi, I believe, is still committed (6-2 240). Eriq George is in the mix (6-3 260). I would expect Furman to bring in a DT this season.

The DINS have recently offered a few more DBs… I believe Burrell is still committed, which indicates Furman wants to bring in two defensive backs.

Linebacker; Ryan Earl appears to be a firm commitment. Herbert is still connected to other commits and the Furman coaches, but his committed post is not on his thread. Furman has several other LB offers out there.
 #59602  by FU3
 Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:05 pm
Our new commit plays for one of the best programs in VA. They run a hybrid version of the old single wing and have tortured their competition with it for the past 25+years. They love to utilize their best athletes in multiple positions/ role’s to maximize touches.Be interesting to see where FU will play him, my guess is as a slot receiver.
http://www.hudl.com/v/2JR6w5
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 #59603  by FurmAlum
 Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:32 pm
I know its just HS football and a highlight film. But damn that guy looks good! Slot receiver would be perfect.

And I like that offense.
 #59604  by The Jackal
 Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:53 pm
FU3 wrote:
Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:05 pm
Our new commit plays for one of the best programs in VA. They run a hybrid version of the old single wing and have tortured their competition with it for the past 25+years. They love to utilize their best athletes in multiple positions/ role’s to maximize touches.Be interesting to see where FU will play him, my guess is as a slot receiver.
http://www.hudl.com/v/2JR6w5
He references Drew Dudzik in his commitment. Dudzik has deep dies to Virginia and this might be one of the first commits from his addition to the coaching staff.

Will be interested to see where they play him.
 #59612  by AstroDin
 Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:58 am
Hinton lists a 3.83 shuttle and a 4.45 40. Watching his film, I believe it.
Hinton appears to fit the mold of an explosive player.

I believe Furman is his only offer, but he has a bunch of interest from schools like JMU.
I feel the reason for this is his fit into what a school wants to do within its offense.
Also, to Jackal's point, our WR coach and his Virginia roots are connected here. It should be fun to watch Colton develop.

Hinton's senior season stats:
1,534 All purpose
22 tds
28.7 avg catch
9.5 avg carry
 #59630  by The Jackal
 Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:12 am
AstroDin wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:58 am
Hinton lists a 3.83 shuttle and a 4.45 40. Watching his film, I believe it.
Hinton appears to fit the mold of an explosive player.

I believe Furman is his only offer, but he has a bunch of interest from schools like JMU.
I feel the reason for this is his fit into what a school wants to do within its offense.
Also, to Jackal's point, our WR coach and his Virginia roots are connected here. It should be fun to watch Colton develop.

Hinton's senior season stats:
1,534 All purpose
22 tds
28.7 avg catch
9.5 avg carry
The athleticism certainly looks to be there.

Lot of interesting possibilities. If he's a slot back off a wing-t team, it'd be a little unique to recruit him as a Wide Receiver, but that also might be a market inefficiency (a player teams aren't looking at because of the system).

He reminds me a bit of Cally Chizik, though. Like he could fill that nickel corner/spur/DB role. If you can run and hit, my guess is you'll first get a look on defense.
 #59636  by FUwolfpacker
 Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:51 am
The Jackal wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:12 am
Lot of interesting possibilities. If he's a slot back off a wing-t team, it'd be a little unique to recruit him as a Wide Receiver, but that also might be a market inefficiency (a player teams aren't looking at because of the system).

He reminds me a bit of Cally Chizik, though. Like he could fill that nickel corner/spur/DB role. If you can run and hit, my guess is you'll first get a look on defense.
They look like they do run some wing T but there are also clips where he's lined up in the slot of a 3 WR set. I know very little about WR recruiting but I think he would fit very well at slot for Furman. He made some decent catches in his highlights, and I imagine he's a willing blocker which is always a plus attribute (especially at Furman). He does look like he could possibly fill a DB role as well though.
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