2020 Schedule

[Affirm]

it’s now only 8 months ...

8 months 17 days.

8 months 13 days now. . . .
This thread was about schedule and got off track. Why have Elon, Richmond, Villanova, James Madison, and presumably the rest of the CAA all announced their 2020 schedules, but we are not able to?
That, plus the fact that in the 18 seasons since any current SoCon team (Furman) was in the FCS finals, CAA has had 10 current member FCS finals appearances (5 of those wins) compared to ZERO for current SoCon teams, makes me again say this: There could be some major advantages for Furman football to move to CAA, and it ought to continue to be explored if we are serious about football.

[The Jackal]

it’s now only 8 months ...

8 months 17 days.

8 months 13 days now. . . .
This thread was about schedule and got off track. Why have Elon, Richmond, Villanova, James Madison, and presumably the rest of the CAA all announced their 2020 schedules, but we are not able to?
That, plus the fact that in the 18 seasons since any current SoCon team (Furman) was in the FCS finals, CAA has had 10 current member FCS finals appearances (5 of those wins) compared to ZERO for current SoCon teams, makes me again say this: There could be some major advantages for Furman football to move to CAA, and it ought to continue to be explored if we are serious about football.

You realize that outside of James Madison, the CAA is pretty milk toast in football, right?

They had three teams make the post season. Albany beat the weakest team in the field and was then promptly trounced by Montana State. Villanova was bounced in the first round by a SELA team that was absolutely hammered by Montana.

[youwouldno]

I'm not sure JMU will even be in the CAA much longer, if they can help it. Seems like their fan base is getting tired of being FCS. And the CAA isn't good at basketball anymore.

[apaladin]

I'm not sure JMU will even be in the CAA much longer, if they can help it. Seems like their fan base is getting tired of being FCS. And the CAA isn't good at basketball anymore.

I think you are right. Won't be long before we will be seeing JMU on those Tuesday and Wednesday night mid-season games. Then they can play in those bowl games like ASU and GSU against nobodies. ASU went 12-1, was ranked 20th and got to play a four loss team in an 80% empty stadium.

[MNORM]

I'm not sure JMU will even be in the CAA much longer, if they can help it. Seems like their fan base is getting tired of being FCS. And the CAA isn't good at basketball anymore.

I think you are right. Won't be long before we will be seeing JMU on those Tuesday and Wednesday night mid-season games. Then they can play in those bowl games like ASU and GSU against nobodies. ASU went 12-1, was ranked 20th and got to play a four loss team in an 80% empty stadium.

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[The Jackal]

I'm not sure JMU will even be in the CAA much longer, if they can help it. Seems like their fan base is getting tired of being FCS. And the CAA isn't good at basketball anymore.

I think you are right. Won't be long before we will be seeing JMU on those Tuesday and Wednesday night mid-season games. Then they can play in those bowl games like ASU and GSU against nobodies. ASU went 12-1, was ranked 20th and got to play a four loss team in an 80% empty stadium.

Attendance 21k in a stadium that holds 75k.

App has played 5 consecutive bowl games, won all of them. Their opponents were Ohio, Toledo (2x), MTSU, and UAB.

Re the New Orleans Bowl:

In 2001, the Sun Belt Conference signed a temporary contract to play against the 5th-ranked team from the Mountain West Conference. Beginning in 2002, the New Orleans Bowl established conference tie-ins with the Sun Belt and Conference USA (C-USA). The Sun Belt usually sends its conference champion to the New Orleans Bowl, but can (and has) sent the champion to what is now known as the LendingTree Bowl, such as Arkansas State playing in the 2013 GoDaddy.com Bowl.

I'm sure that's a lot more fun than national championships. Hey, maybe next year they can make the LendingTree Bowl, whatever that is.

[sluggo]

I'm not sure JMU will even be in the CAA much longer, if they can help it. Seems like their fan base is getting tired of being FCS. And the CAA isn't good at basketball anymore.

I think you are right. Won't be long before we will be seeing JMU on those Tuesday and Wednesday night mid-season games. Then they can play in those bowl games like ASU and GSU against nobodies. ASU went 12-1, was ranked 20th and got to play a four loss team in an 80% empty stadium.

Attendance 21k in a stadium that holds 75k.

App has played 5 consecutive bowl games, won all of them. Their opponents were Ohio, Toledo (2x), MTSU, and UAB.

Re the New Orleans Bowl:

In 2001, the Sun Belt Conference signed a temporary contract to play against the 5th-ranked team from the Mountain West Conference. Beginning in 2002, the New Orleans Bowl established conference tie-ins with the Sun Belt and Conference USA (C-USA). The Sun Belt usually sends its conference champion to the New Orleans Bowl, but can (and has) sent the champion to what is now known as the LendingTree Bowl, such as Arkansas State playing in the 2013 GoDaddy.com Bowl.

I'm sure that's a lot more fun than national championships. Hey, maybe next year they can make the LendingTree Bowl, whatever that is.

Talking about national championships on this board is somewhat delusional.
Waiting 30 years a pop to have "more fun" is ridiculous.

We need to worry about the dying crowds at the games; because if it gets much worse, football will have to be discontinued.

As much as I like Furman football, I personally can't justify keeping a D1 scholarship team when the crowd dies down to under 4000.

21k viewers in a stadium that seats 75k is still 15k more tickets than typical FCS playoff game that we lose.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/g ... /401185996

Attendance: 3,559

How do you spell "Nobody gives a sh__"? Answer : 3,559

[Affirm]

it’s now only 8 months ...

8 months 17 days.

8 months 13 days now. . . .
This thread was about schedule and got off track. Why have Elon, Richmond, Villanova, James Madison, and presumably the rest of the CAA all announced their 2020 schedules, but we are not able to?
That, plus the fact that in the 18 seasons since any current SoCon team (Furman) was in the FCS finals, CAA has had 10 current member FCS finals appearances (5 of those wins) compared to ZERO for current SoCon teams, makes me again say this: There could be some major advantages for Furman football to move to CAA, and it ought to continue to be explored if we are serious about football.

You realize that outside of James Madison, the CAA is pretty milk toast in football, right?

They had three teams make the post season. Albany beat the weakest team in the field and was then promptly trounced by Montana State. Villanova was bounced in the first round by a SELA team that was absolutely hammered by Montana.

CAA does have their schedules announced already, and they are generally very decent OOC schedules. SoCon schools are still searching for games and some of the OOC’s will be not so decent.

[The Jackal]

I'm not sure JMU will even be in the CAA much longer, if they can help it. Seems like their fan base is getting tired of being FCS. And the CAA isn't good at basketball anymore.

I think you are right. Won't be long before we will be seeing JMU on those Tuesday and Wednesday night mid-season games. Then they can play in those bowl games like ASU and GSU against nobodies. ASU went 12-1, was ranked 20th and got to play a four loss team in an 80% empty stadium.

Attendance 21k in a stadium that holds 75k.

App has played 5 consecutive bowl games, won all of them. Their opponents were Ohio, Toledo (2x), MTSU, and UAB.

Re the New Orleans Bowl:

In 2001, the Sun Belt Conference signed a temporary contract to play against the 5th-ranked team from the Mountain West Conference. Beginning in 2002, the New Orleans Bowl established conference tie-ins with the Sun Belt and Conference USA (C-USA). The Sun Belt usually sends its conference champion to the New Orleans Bowl, but can (and has) sent the champion to what is now known as the LendingTree Bowl, such as Arkansas State playing in the 2013 GoDaddy.com Bowl.

I'm sure that's a lot more fun than national championships. Hey, maybe next year they can make the LendingTree Bowl, whatever that is.

Talking about national championships on this board is somewhat delusional.
Waiting 30 years a pop to have "more fun" is ridiculous.

We need to worry about the dying crowds at the games; because if it gets much worse, football will have to be discontinued.

As much as I like Furman football, I personally can't justify keeping a D1 scholarship team when the crowd dies down to under 4000.

21k viewers in a stadium that seats 75k is still 15k more tickets than typical FCS playoff game that we lose.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/g ... /401185996

Attendance: 3,559

How do you spell "Nobody gives a sh__"? Answer : 3,559

I'm sure that the heavy rains, thunderstorms, and multiple lightning delays had nothing to do with the attendance.

[The Jackal]

it’s now only 8 months ...

8 months 17 days.

8 months 13 days now. . . .
This thread was about schedule and got off track. Why have Elon, Richmond, Villanova, James Madison, and presumably the rest of the CAA all announced their 2020 schedules, but we are not able to?
That, plus the fact that in the 18 seasons since any current SoCon team (Furman) was in the FCS finals, CAA has had 10 current member FCS finals appearances (5 of those wins) compared to ZERO for current SoCon teams, makes me again say this: There could be some major advantages for Furman football to move to CAA, and it ought to continue to be explored if we are serious about football.

You realize that outside of James Madison, the CAA is pretty milk toast in football, right?

They had three teams make the post season. Albany beat the weakest team in the field and was then promptly trounced by Montana State. Villanova was bounced in the first round by a SELA team that was absolutely hammered by Montana.

CAA does have their schedules announced already, and they are generally very decent OOC schedules. SoCon schools are still searching for games and some of the OOC’s will be not so decent.

Hey - good for them.

Remember also that the CAA has three other FCS conferences that share the largely the same geographic area (NEC, Patriot, and Ivy Leagues). If you look at most teams' schedules, they are basically a rotation of NEC and Patriot League teams.

It's a bit easier to carve out a schedule with reasonable travel when there are two dozen FCS teams a short distance away.

[Affirm]

I'm not sure JMU will even be in the CAA much longer, if they can help it. Seems like their fan base is getting tired of being FCS. And the CAA isn't good at basketball anymore.

I think you are right. Won't be long before we will be seeing JMU on those Tuesday and Wednesday night mid-season games. Then they can play in those bowl games like ASU and GSU against nobodies. ASU went 12-1, was ranked 20th and got to play a four loss team in an 80% empty stadium.

Attendance 21k in a stadium that holds 75k.

App has played 5 consecutive bowl games, won all of them. Their opponents were Ohio, Toledo (2x), MTSU, and UAB.

Re the New Orleans Bowl:

In 2001, the Sun Belt Conference signed a temporary contract to play against the 5th-ranked team from the Mountain West Conference. Beginning in 2002, the New Orleans Bowl established conference tie-ins with the Sun Belt and Conference USA (C-USA). The Sun Belt usually sends its conference champion to the New Orleans Bowl, but can (and has) sent the champion to what is now known as the LendingTree Bowl, such as Arkansas State playing in the 2013 GoDaddy.com Bowl.

I'm sure that's a lot more fun than national championships. Hey, maybe next year they can make the LendingTree Bowl, whatever that is.

Talking about national championships on this board is somewhat delusional.
Waiting 30 years a pop to have "more fun" is ridiculous.

We need to worry about the dying crowds at the games; because if it gets much worse, football will have to be discontinued.

As much as I like Furman football, I personally can't justify keeping a D1 scholarship team when the crowd dies down to under 4000.

21k viewers in a stadium that seats 75k is still 15k more tickets than typical FCS playoff game that we lose.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/g ... /401185996

Attendance: 3,559

How do you spell "Nobody gives a sh__"? Answer : 3,559

In my opinion, whether or not we should keep D1 scholarship football should depend upon the predicted overall net financial and educational impacts upon the university, if “we keep it” versus “if we move to Pioneer League or make some other similar change”. It’s not just attendance. It’s not just football direct costs and direct benefits. What are indirect costs and indirect benefits?

[cavedweller2]

Sluggo has a point. What team within reality could Furman schedule that would attract 15,000 to Paladin Stadium?

[apaladin]

CAA does have their schedules announced already, and they are generally very decent OOC schedules. SoCon schools are still searching for games and some of the OOC’s will be not so decent.
[/quote]

Not really true that SoCon schools are still searching for games. There are only 3 OOC games in the whole league that are unknown. FU, MU and ETSU have one unknown game each. The SoCon conference schedule is also done, it's just up to the schools when they want to announce it.
Here are the 2020 SoCon OOC schedules:
Chattanooga: @Western Ky., @James Madison, N. Alabama
Citadel: Elon, CSU @Clempson-has annouced SoCon schedule also
ETSU: @Georgia @Austin Peay, Unknown
Furman: @Tennessee, @CSU(not confimed), Unknown
Mercer: @Vanderbilt, @Campbell, Unknown
Samford: Tenn. Tech, @Kennesaw St., @Florida St.
Western: @E. Kentucky, Gardner-Webb, @Liberty
Wofford: SC State, @Gardner-Webb, @South Carolina
I would bet the 3 unknown games are already scheduled.

[sluggo]

I'm sure that the heavy rains, thunderstorms, and multiple lightning delays had nothing to do with the attendance.

Well actually not that much compared to the next playoff game :

Austin Peay vs Sacramento State Attendance: 5,140
https://www.espn.com/college-football/g ... /401187314

Montana State game had the kind of numbers we need to see :
Attendance: 14,017

[din23]

There is no “if we keep” DI football. There is no debate aside from you thinking out loud on this board. Thankfully.