• Transfer Portal Thread

 #95748  by Louis Tully
 Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:13 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:35 am
Sad Din wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:45 am
Somethings gonna have to be done about xfer portal. Even FBS playoff teams are losing players.

Theres only 3 things that need to be addressed

1. Timing of Portal entries (seems it should be after season ends)
2. Amt of NIL contracts. Some of them are crazy.
3. Lack of commitment or contracts. Even the pros have contracts.

Other thoughts?

I'm sure the transfer portal window is to accommodate kids moving schools before the spring semester.
God forbid these "student Athletes" miss any classroom time.
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 #95773  by FUBeAR
 Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:44 pm
Decided to do the visual Starters / 2-Deep losses 'thing' for Furman, as FUBeAR did for Mercer, WCU, and Chatt...would have added it to the prior post, but the tyrannical Stumpy won't allow FUBeAR to post more than 3 links per post.

CAVEAT: These may/may not be accurate. Feel free to correct and feel free to add other Teams.

FUBeAR would imagine with a Coaching change and a highly ‘transient’ 2024 Team, ETSU will also have heavy losses. Also Samford, with 2 highly ‘transient’ Teams in ‘23 & ‘24 may be similarly situated.


Furman
Image
Yellow - listed as Sr. or in Portal
Gray - listed as R-Sr, but has another year (Covid) and believe he plans to use it playing for the Paladins


Offense losses - 4 starters / 5 on 2-Deep
Defense losses - 4 starters / 4 on 2-Deep
Total O&D losses - 8 starters / 9 on 2-Deep
 #95796  by gofurman
 Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:27 pm
FUBeAR wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:44 pm
Decided to do the visual Starters / 2-Deep losses 'thing' for Furman, as FUBeAR did for Mercer, WCU, and Chatt...would have added it to the prior post, but the tyrannical Stumpy won't allow FUBeAR to post more than 3 links per post.

CAVEAT: These may/may not be accurate. Feel free to correct and feel free to add other Teams.

FUBeAR would imagine with a Coaching change and a highly ‘transient’ 2024 Team, ETSU will also have heavy losses. Also Samford, with 2 highly ‘transient’ Teams in ‘23 & ‘24 may be similarly situated.


Furman
Image
Yellow - listed as Sr. or in Portal
Gray - listed as R-Sr, but has another year (Covid) and believe he plans to use it playing for the Paladins


Offense losses - 4 starters / 5 on 2-Deep
Defense losses - 4 starters / 4 on 2-Deep
Total O&D losses - 8 starters / 9 on 2-Deep

Thanks for these listings FUBeAR !!!. Seriously. Thanks


And whomever was glad Wofford retained two good players (despite finishing 7th). BOO TO THAT. Pulley and Coombs. They beat us. Again. It’s better for us that they lose the two guys than retain them. And right now I don’t feel good about getting a W on Wofford next year. Beat citadel. Beat Wofford.
 #95797  by FUwolfpacker
 Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:02 am
gofurman wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:27 pm

And whomever was glad Wofford retained two good players (despite finishing 7th). BOO TO THAT. Pulley and Coombs. They beat us. Again. It’s better for us that they lose the two guys than retain them. And right now I don’t feel good about getting a W on Wofford next year. Beat citadel. Beat Wofford.
I'm not sure you completely read all of the old posts. I posted it was a big deal that they were able to get those two guys back, but I never applied happiness, sadness, or anger to it. I guess because I didn't outright voice my displeasure you took it as I was glad somehow? Anyways....

By the time this is all said and done when we get to fall practice, every team is going to have a lot of question marks I believe. You can see from Bear's 2 deep pics there there is going to be a decent amount of turnover from the top teams. Mercer's doesn't look too bad so far, so they are certainly better positioned to stay near the top. WCU and UTC have a lot of holes to fill. Samford always seems to have a lot of turnover so who know what you'll get from them. ETSU has lost a few good young players already. It's hard to talk about or project out how easy or hard any game looks at this point.
 #95802  by The Jackal
 Thu Dec 19, 2024 6:33 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:44 pm
Decided to do the visual Starters / 2-Deep losses 'thing' for Furman, as FUBeAR did for Mercer, WCU, and Chatt...would have added it to the prior post, but the tyrannical Stumpy won't allow FUBeAR to post more than 3 links per post.

CAVEAT: These may/may not be accurate. Feel free to correct and feel free to add other Teams.

FUBeAR would imagine with a Coaching change and a highly ‘transient’ 2024 Team, ETSU will also have heavy losses. Also Samford, with 2 highly ‘transient’ Teams in ‘23 & ‘24 may be similarly situated.

Offense losses - 4 starters / 5 on 2-Deep
Defense losses - 4 starters / 4 on 2-Deep
Total O&D losses - 8 starters / 9 on 2-Deep
This is sort of a more complicated analysis given the injuries this year. We have a number of returning starters that weren't on the two deep late in the season.
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 #95806  by FUATT
 Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:59 am
The Jackal wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 6:33 am
FUBeAR wrote:
Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:44 pm
Decided to do the visual Starters / 2-Deep losses 'thing' for Furman, as FUBeAR did for Mercer, WCU, and Chatt...would have added it to the prior post, but the tyrannical Stumpy won't allow FUBeAR to post more than 3 links per post.

CAVEAT: These may/may not be accurate. Feel free to correct and feel free to add other Teams.

FUBeAR would imagine with a Coaching change and a highly ‘transient’ 2024 Team, ETSU will also have heavy losses. Also Samford, with 2 highly ‘transient’ Teams in ‘23 & ‘24 may be similarly situated.

Offense losses - 4 starters / 5 on 2-Deep
Defense losses - 4 starters / 4 on 2-Deep
Total O&D losses - 8 starters / 9 on 2-Deep
This is sort of a more complicated analysis given the injuries this year. We have a number of returning starters that weren't on the two deep late in the season.
It is a great analysis FUBear. Thanks! But this is a fair point. For instance, you do not see Burrell in there at TE. Or AK Burrell at DB. etc.

If we get the Transfer WR I think we get and he works out, the sting of Hinton will not be so bad.

If we get the OT from VMI... Nettles plus a good Portal RB. And X gets the extra year.

All of sudden most of those gaps are filled. Figuring out LB and Bandit from the current players we have becomes the the key if all those dominos fall.
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 #95810  by The Jackal
 Thu Dec 19, 2024 8:43 am
As I see it, we'll return most everyone.

I'm not sure we probably appreciated at the time how crippling it was to lose AK Burrell and Justin Hartwell right before the season. Those were two likely defensive starters. Add to that whatever happened with the Tate kid from Georgia State, who played a game or two and then disappeared off the roster, and it was a massive blow to the depth chart in the defensive backfield right out of the gate.

On a positive note, we had a season where we took some lumps and got better. We found out Billy Lewis can play.
 #95813  by FUwolfpacker
 Thu Dec 19, 2024 10:35 am
FUATT wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 7:59 am

It is a great analysis FUBear. Thanks! But this is a fair point. For instance, you do not see Burrell in there at TE. Or AK Burrell at DB. etc.

If we get the Transfer WR I think we get and he works out, the sting of Hinton will not be so bad.

If we get the OT from VMI... Nettles plus a good Portal RB. And X gets the extra year.

All of sudden most of those gaps are filled. Figuring out LB and Bandit from the current players we have becomes the the key if all those dominos fall.
Do we have a legit shot at Poindexter from VMI? That would be a big get given some of his offers.

I kind of figured Dudzik's tweet was about a slot WR. I have my guesses there but I'll wait and see.

Getting Stephens and extra year would be the biggest offseason "addition" to me.

With Achina not on the roster, it feels like we almost have to find a LB in the portal but we'll see I guess
 #95818  by Davemeister
 Thu Dec 19, 2024 11:14 am
Did not see Carson Jones on the roster. Is this because he was in Concussion Protocal?
 #95826  by FUwolfpacker
 Thu Dec 19, 2024 12:03 pm
Davemeister wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2024 11:14 am
Did not see Carson Jones on the roster. Is this because he was in Concussion Protocal?
He's on the school roster, just not that depth chart because he was out with the concussion.
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