The Unofficial Furman Football Page

JohnKX512 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:02 pm

All of our football players are independent contractors.

Once you sign a letter of intent, it is a contract position. If you do not meet the qualifications of that contract (GPA, code of conduct, etc) then your contract is terminated.

If an individual player can leave at any time to go to another school (company) due to the transfer portal, then it is contract job.

affirm wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:36 pm

If any particular school in the SoCon were to decide to pay players $15.00 per hour for a weekly or biweekly paycheck, I wonder what the annual gross income for one player would be.
How many hours per year would they be employed by the school?
How many weeks per year would the school need to pay them at $22.50 for overtime work, and how many hours over 40 in those weeks would they have at that 1.5x rate?
What hourly rate of pay would a Furman full-scholarship (formerly full-scholarship, now converted to employment) football player need to have to cover the value of their (former) full-scholarship, which presumably (?) they now would be funding with their annual football employment pay (although some would perhaps have other scholarships and thereby could bank some or all of their football employment pay)?

Furmanoid wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:43 pm

Pretty sure they would need to play a few games for some other team each year. Otherwise they are coemployed by themselves and FU. I got caught in this trap a long time ago and and was forced to roll over from high paid contractor to cheap regular employee. But maybe the interpretation has changed.

JohnKX512 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:59 pm

Furmanoid wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:43 pm

Pretty sure they would need to play a few games for some other team each year. Otherwise they are coemployed by themselves and FU. I got caught in this trap a long time ago and and was forced to roll over from high paid contractor to cheap regular employee. But maybe the interpretation has changed.

It depends on how you file your contract with taxes and liability. LLC or business while contracting.

JohnKX512 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:57 pm

affirm wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:36 pm

If any particular school in the SoCon were to decide to pay players $15.00 per hour for a weekly or biweekly paycheck, I wonder what the annual gross income for one player would be.
How many hours per year would they be employed by the school?
How many weeks per year would the school need to pay them at $22.50 for overtime work, and how many hours over 40 in those weeks would they have at that 1.5x rate?
What hourly rate of pay would a Furman full-scholarship (formerly full-scholarship, now converted to employment) football player need to have to cover the value of their (former) full-scholarship, which presumably (?) they now would be funding with their annual football employment pay (although some would perhaps have other scholarships and thereby could bank some or all of their football employment pay)?

This is an even more real dilemma/discussion for this issue. I feel like athletic scholarships should not be an option if they are also “employed”. That is double dipping.

affirm wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:14 pm

JohnKX512 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:57 pm

affirm wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:36 pm

If any particular school in the SoCon were to decide to pay players $15.00 per hour for a weekly or biweekly paycheck, I wonder what the annual gross income for one player would be.
How many hours per year would they be employed by the school?
How many weeks per year would the school need to pay them at $22.50 for overtime work, and how many hours over 40 in those weeks would they have at that 1.5x rate?
What hourly rate of pay would a Furman full-scholarship (formerly full-scholarship, now converted to employment) football player need to have to cover the value of their (former) full-scholarship, which presumably (?) they now would be funding with their annual football employment pay (although some would perhaps have other scholarships and thereby could bank some or all of their football employment pay)?

This is an even more real dilemma/discussion for this issue. I feel like athletic scholarships should not be an option if they are also “employed”. That is double dipping.

No, not double dipping. The school has students on academic scholarships who also have jobs paid by the school, working as employees of the school.

affirm wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 9:14 pm

JohnKX512 wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 8:57 pm

affirm wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:36 pm

If any particular school in the SoCon were to decide to pay players $15.00 per hour for a weekly or biweekly paycheck, I wonder what the annual gross income for one player would be.
How many hours per year would they be employed by the school?
How many weeks per year would the school need to pay them at $22.50 for overtime work, and how many hours over 40 in those weeks would they have at that 1.5x rate?
What hourly rate of pay would a Furman full-scholarship (formerly full-scholarship, now converted to employment) football player need to have to cover the value of their (former) full-scholarship, which presumably (?) they now would be funding with their annual football employment pay (although some would perhaps have other scholarships and thereby could bank some or all of their football employment pay)?

This is an even more real dilemma/discussion for this issue. I feel like athletic scholarships should not be an option if they are also “employed”. That is double dipping.

No, not double dipping. The school has students on academic scholarships who also have jobs paid by the school, working as employees of the school.