It is definitely good material and they have WCU and Mercer locked in the field. They unfortunately stick all three SoCon teams together but I hope that was bc they rushed that part of the bracket when placing the 1st round matchups.FUBeAR wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:55 pmWill look forward to giving that a listen.FUpaladin08 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:32 pmAgree on UTC but I do understand the difficulties once looking at all 7-4 teams. Watched this today where they do a mock playoff selection: https://www.youtube.com/live/58z8dn5B3s ... DaF2hq49S8The Jackal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:42 amI think it's also positive that four SoCon teams are in the top 21.
Interestingly, Mercer is the lowest ranked team, but has 8 wins.
It's going to be a real head scratcher if the rankings say UTC is a top 20 team, but they can't make a 24 team field.
I was surprised how it was easy to leave off UTC when comparing ranked wins, FBS wins, and lastly SOS across those 7-4 teams. Poor UTC only has 1 ranked win right?
Mercer just didn't get the 'bounce' some expected and certainly hoped for in the rankings from beating Samford. There will be some VERY ANGRY BEARS if they do not receive an At Large bid.
SoCon Title/Playoffs
If 4 SoCons get in I predict we play a So Con Team on 12/2 and again on 12/16.
Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for Gozer: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!
Mercer in the semis at home would be cool with me.
"Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean.
'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.”
Josey Wales
'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.”
Josey Wales
As much as FUBeAR would hate that, he would also love it.
NCAA MANUAL
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
Today's Fun Fraud Facts for Football - Big Sky version...
* Montana has played in 62 Playoff games. 74% of those have been at Home. The Griz are 1-15 (.062) in Away Playoff games. ONE AND FIFTEEN!!!!
Montana State has played in 25 Playoff games. About 54% (something like that) have been at Home. The Bobcats are 1-7 (.125) in Away Playoff games. ONE AND SEVEN!!!!
Combined 2-22 (.083) in Away Playoff Games. TWO AND TWENTY-TWO!!!!
That seems pretty frappin' statistically significant.
Also saw that Furman had played 38 Playoff games. About 58% have been at Home. The Paladins are 8-8 (.500) in Away Playoff games. (Ahh...you mean how GOOD TEAMS are able to win at home and on the road...instead of relying on the location in some frozen tundra in goodness-knows-where for their competitive advantage? Yes...that's EXACTLY WHAT FUBeAR MEANS!!!)
Those really and truly are amazing stats to FUBeAR and FUBeAR now fully understands the MASSIVE efforts by Montana's and Montana State's 'bloc' to steal the #2 Seed that Furman will have EARNED with a win this Saturday.
Also - It's a shame the FCS Media / Pundits seem to be totally complicit in this effort - heck, they might even be leading it. It seems the relative size of a Team's (reachable) Fan Base might be high on their Playoff Seeding criteria list. $$$$$
FUBeAR holds out hope that the Committee, this year, will just rely on On-the-Field Results in their deliberations. Seems kinda like the thing they are supposed to do, huh?
* Montana has played in 62 Playoff games. 74% of those have been at Home. The Griz are 1-15 (.062) in Away Playoff games. ONE AND FIFTEEN!!!!
Montana State has played in 25 Playoff games. About 54% (something like that) have been at Home. The Bobcats are 1-7 (.125) in Away Playoff games. ONE AND SEVEN!!!!
Combined 2-22 (.083) in Away Playoff Games. TWO AND TWENTY-TWO!!!!
That seems pretty frappin' statistically significant.
Also saw that Furman had played 38 Playoff games. About 58% have been at Home. The Paladins are 8-8 (.500) in Away Playoff games. (Ahh...you mean how GOOD TEAMS are able to win at home and on the road...instead of relying on the location in some frozen tundra in goodness-knows-where for their competitive advantage? Yes...that's EXACTLY WHAT FUBeAR MEANS!!!)
Those really and truly are amazing stats to FUBeAR and FUBeAR now fully understands the MASSIVE efforts by Montana's and Montana State's 'bloc' to steal the #2 Seed that Furman will have EARNED with a win this Saturday.
Also - It's a shame the FCS Media / Pundits seem to be totally complicit in this effort - heck, they might even be leading it. It seems the relative size of a Team's (reachable) Fan Base might be high on their Playoff Seeding criteria list. $$$$$
FUBeAR holds out hope that the Committee, this year, will just rely on On-the-Field Results in their deliberations. Seems kinda like the thing they are supposed to do, huh?
NCAA MANUAL
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
Good find.
From what I've seen, the circular argument goes like this:
1. The SoCon has not performed well enough in the post season to deserve a high seed.
2. The clearest indicator of a team that does well in the post season is a high seed (bye weeks, playing at home, limited cross country travel)
3. Furman cannot get the benefit of having the high seed, because the conference has not shown enough ability to win, because they don't ever get high seeds.
From what I've seen, the circular argument goes like this:
1. The SoCon has not performed well enough in the post season to deserve a high seed.
2. The clearest indicator of a team that does well in the post season is a high seed (bye weeks, playing at home, limited cross country travel)
3. Furman cannot get the benefit of having the high seed, because the conference has not shown enough ability to win, because they don't ever get high seeds.
Correct AND…The Jackal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:44 amGood find.
From what I've seen, the circular argument goes like this:
1. The SoCon has not performed well enough in the post season to deserve a high seed.
2. The clearest indicator of a team that does well in the post season is a high seed (bye weeks, playing at home, limited cross country travel)
3. Furman cannot get the benefit of having the high seed, because the conference has not shown enough ability to win, because they don't ever get high seeds.
Put 1 or 2 SoCon marbles in the bucket and put 4-7 Big Sky + 4-7 MVFC marbles in the bucket. Assume the marbles are the same size. Now pull out some marbles … bet ya got fewer SoCon marbles, don’t ya?
…AND
You go 15 rounds with Joe Frazier today while I play a round of golf with my niece. Now, tomorrow, you walk the 25 miles to my house in the woods up in the mountains, in the snow…and you’re barefoot…and we’re gonna go another 15 rounds. Bet I can beat you up.
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NCAA MANUAL
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
The state of Montana was responsible for the death of Augustus McCrae. They should have never been admitted as a state.
FUBeAR liked this
"My name is Rufus R. Jones and the R stands for guts."
Amazing!FUBeAR wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 9:34 amToday's Fun Fraud Facts for Football - Big Sky version...
* Montana has played in 62 Playoff games. 74% of those have been at Home. The Griz are 1-15 (.062) in Away Playoff games. ONE AND FIFTEEN!!!!
Montana State has played in 25 Playoff games. About 54% (something like that) have been at Home. The Bobcats are 1-7 (.125) in Away Playoff games. ONE AND SEVEN!!!!
Combined 2-22 (.083) in Away Playoff Games. TWO AND TWENTY-TWO!!!!
That seems pretty frappin' statistically significant.
Also saw that Furman had played 38 Playoff games. About 58% have been at Home. The Paladins are 8-8 (.500) in Away Playoff games. (Ahh...you mean how GOOD TEAMS are able to win at home and on the road...instead of relying on the location in some frozen tundra in goodness-knows-where for their competitive advantage? Yes...that's EXACTLY WHAT FUBeAR MEANS!!!)
Those really and truly are amazing stats to FUBeAR and FUBeAR now fully understands the MASSIVE efforts by Montana's and Montana State's 'bloc' to steal the #2 Seed that Furman will have EARNED with a win this Saturday.
Also - It's a shame the FCS Media / Pundits seem to be totally complicit in this effort - heck, they might even be leading it. It seems the relative size of a Team's (reachable) Fan Base might be high on their Playoff Seeding criteria list. $$$$$
FUBeAR holds out hope that the Committee, this year, will just rely on On-the-Field Results in their deliberations. Seems kinda like the thing they are supposed to do, huh?
I would have never guessed that M & MS had such poor playoff records on the road. Yep I will never forget our 2006 “home” playoff game loss. It was went the playoff selection show said “Furman at Montana State”. I thought that was crooked then and my confidence in the selection committee has not increased.
I am glad North Dakota State finally has to leave the Dome!
If Furman is not the # 2 seed I will call “FOUL”.
Gotta bury the rat muts first before we cry anything!
I like Montana and Montana State very much. I am biased because I love Missoula and Bozeman, and their fan base is admirable. However, they are both complicit in the death of Augustus McCrae (thanks to Fred Garvin for pointing that out), so they deserve no special treatment. Also, Ed Kemper and Ted Kaczynski are from Montana. We shouldn't coddle people like that.
Didn't think the UFFP would have me back, perhaps. Well, maybe I'm not "the norm". I don't "wear clothes that fit me". I'm not "hygienic" and "pop my white heads with a compass I used in high school".
Heard that...like it...believe it's true....but that's gonna get some...."Bucknell...Campbell...SC State...Presbyterian...Austin Peay" pushback.
Not gonna let FUBeAR's IRL Persona ReX that one. Not sure he could handle the slings and arrows. He's soft -- not tough like FUBeAR.
NCAA MANUAL
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
20.10.1 ...intercollegiate athletics...competition in amateur athletics…
20.10.1.2 …maintaining a line of demarcation between student-athletes who participate in the Collegiate Model and athletes competing in the professional model
We have a couple of those on upcoming schedules.
