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Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:53 pm
by MidlandsPaladin
HBCUGradFUDad wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:56 am
100% agree that it’s NOT a talent problem!! Unfortunately the transfer portal may attract a lot of this talent over the summer...
That’s what I’m afraid of. We used so few players in basically a free year of eligibility that I’m sure we have guys discouraged about their lack of PT.

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm
by fupaladin01
I spoke to a Furman fan in downtown Chucktown after the game Saturday who turned out to be the father of one of our "rising stars" from a large far away state. He seemed surprised that these young playmakers weren't seen more often on the field this year and brought up the point that many of their younger counterparts were watching from their home high school programs and might get discouraged from coming all the way to Furman just to ride the bench when they could be contributing.
Reminds me of how Chris Forcier, the best athlete on our team at the time, sat on the bench for at least a year. Why our coaches are hesitant to utilize a playmaker when our starters are not making plays is beyond me.

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm
by Sad Din
fupaladin01 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm
I spoke to a Furman fan in downtown Chucktown after the game Saturday who turned out to be the father of one of our "rising stars" from a large far away state. He seemed surprised that these young playmakers weren't seen more often on the field this year and brought up the point that many of their younger counterparts were watching from their home high school programs and might get discouraged from coming all the way to Furman just to ride the bench when they could be contributing.
Reminds me of how Chris Forcier, the best athlete on our team at the time, sat on the bench for at least a year. Why our coaches are hesitant to utilize a playmaker when our starters are not making plays is beyond me.
Forcier had a great QB in front of him. Just a big coincidence that he just happened to be the O Coord's son :o

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:40 am
by The Jackal
Sad Din wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm
fupaladin01 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm
I spoke to a Furman fan in downtown Chucktown after the game Saturday who turned out to be the father of one of our "rising stars" from a large far away state. He seemed surprised that these young playmakers weren't seen more often on the field this year and brought up the point that many of their younger counterparts were watching from their home high school programs and might get discouraged from coming all the way to Furman just to ride the bench when they could be contributing.
Reminds me of how Chris Forcier, the best athlete on our team at the time, sat on the bench for at least a year. Why our coaches are hesitant to utilize a playmaker when our starters are not making plays is beyond me.
Forcier had a great QB in front of him. Just a big coincidence that he just happened to be the O Coord's son :o

I'll say this again.

Literally no one has more at stake in winning football games than the coaches. For us, it is entertainment. For them, it is their livelihood.

They have every incentive to play the best players they can play. This coaching staff, in particular, plays a ton of players every game. If a kid isn't seeing the field, there's probably a reason.

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:02 pm
by MNORM
Sad Din wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm
fupaladin01 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm
I spoke to a Furman fan in downtown Chucktown after the game Saturday who turned out to be the father of one of our "rising stars" from a large far away state. He seemed surprised that these young playmakers weren't seen more often on the field this year and brought up the point that many of their younger counterparts were watching from their home high school programs and might get discouraged from coming all the way to Furman just to ride the bench when they could be contributing.
Reminds me of how Chris Forcier, the best athlete on our team at the time, sat on the bench for at least a year. Why our coaches are hesitant to utilize a playmaker when our starters are not making plays is beyond me.
Forcier had a great QB in front of him. Just a big coincidence that he just happened to be the O Coord's son :o
...and apparently Forcier couldn't figure out our complicated playbook :roll:

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:16 pm
by apaladin
The Jackal wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:40 am
Sad Din wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm
fupaladin01 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm
I spoke to a Furman fan in downtown Chucktown after the game Saturday who turned out to be the father of one of our "rising stars" from a large far away state. He seemed surprised that these young playmakers weren't seen more often on the field this year and brought up the point that many of their younger counterparts were watching from their home high school programs and might get discouraged from coming all the way to Furman just to ride the bench when they could be contributing.
Reminds me of how Chris Forcier, the best athlete on our team at the time, sat on the bench for at least a year. Why our coaches are hesitant to utilize a playmaker when our starters are not making plays is beyond me.
Forcier had a great QB in front of him. Just a big coincidence that he just happened to be the O Coord's son :o

I'll say this again.

Literally no one has more at stake in winning football games than the coaches. For us, it is entertainment. For them, it is their livelihood.

They have every incentive to play the best players they can play. This coaching staff, in particular, plays a ton of players every game. If a kid isn't seeing the field, there's probably a reason.
Could that be a problem, literally playing too many players? All players are not equal. Just sayin’

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:20 pm
by The Jackal
apaladin wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:16 pm
The Jackal wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:40 am
Sad Din wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm
fupaladin01 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm
I spoke to a Furman fan in downtown Chucktown after the game Saturday who turned out to be the father of one of our "rising stars" from a large far away state. He seemed surprised that these young playmakers weren't seen more often on the field this year and brought up the point that many of their younger counterparts were watching from their home high school programs and might get discouraged from coming all the way to Furman just to ride the bench when they could be contributing.
Reminds me of how Chris Forcier, the best athlete on our team at the time, sat on the bench for at least a year. Why our coaches are hesitant to utilize a playmaker when our starters are not making plays is beyond me.
Forcier had a great QB in front of him. Just a big coincidence that he just happened to be the O Coord's son :o

I'll say this again.

Literally no one has more at stake in winning football games than the coaches. For us, it is entertainment. For them, it is their livelihood.

They have every incentive to play the best players they can play. This coaching staff, in particular, plays a ton of players every game. If a kid isn't seeing the field, there's probably a reason.
Could that be a problem, literally playing too many players? All players are not equal. Just sayin’

Not sure how the offense can be criticized both for playing too many players and not enough players.

Maybe the issue is not playing the right players, who happen to also be related to the complaining party?

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:59 pm
by Sad Din
MNORM wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:02 pm
Sad Din wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm
fupaladin01 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm
I spoke to a Furman fan in downtown Chucktown after the game Saturday who turned out to be the father of one of our "rising stars" from a large far away state. He seemed surprised that these young playmakers weren't seen more often on the field this year and brought up the point that many of their younger counterparts were watching from their home high school programs and might get discouraged from coming all the way to Furman just to ride the bench when they could be contributing.
Reminds me of how Chris Forcier, the best athlete on our team at the time, sat on the bench for at least a year. Why our coaches are hesitant to utilize a playmaker when our starters are not making plays is beyond me.
Forcier had a great QB in front of him. Just a big coincidence that he just happened to be the O Coord's son :o
...and apparently Forcier couldn't figure out our complicated playbook :roll:
Yep... all five plays. :lol:

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:20 pm
by apaladin
Forcier was the worst misuse of talent ever.

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:52 pm
by The Jackal
apaladin wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:20 pm
Forcier was the worst misuse of talent ever.
False.

Letting David Carpenter throw to Juan Uribe in game 4 of the 2013 NLDS while nursing a 1 run lead in the 8th inning and Craig Kimbrel waiting warm in the bullpen was the worst misuse of talent ever.

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:46 pm
by purplehorse
Mocs123 wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:50 pm
An outsiders perspective-

While the Mocs and Coach Wright were very vocal about "playing for the fall", I don't think they were alone in that philosophy. I tend to think that Hendrix and Co. didn't put 100% in particularly after losses to VMI and Chattanooga put them out of contention for the playoffs (or at least it seemed that way at the time). My guess is that after that, the coaches kept things extra vanilla and started playing for the fall.

I tend to think things aren't as bad for several SoCon schools as their fans think right now (The Paladins are in that category), and I think there are teams that aren't really as good as their fans think they are right now. I think only one or two SoCon schools really lost this spring - Wofford where I am hearing rumblings Conklin lost the team, and Western Carolina, where they bought out Speir with 4 years left and an difficult time of year to hire a coach and staff. They'd have been better off to wait until December to fire him.

2021 probably isn't going to look like 1988 at Furman, but I do think Furman will be in contention for a SoCon championship in the fall and I think they will make the playoffs. I also tend to think Hendrix is a good coach, so I wouldn't break out the pitchforks just yet.
We were TERRIBLE this year. We were completely over-rated. Even with the Conference being “down” I predict more of the same in the fall. I don’t think we will contend and see no reason for optimism at all. We got worse during the season and lost to a 2-9 Citadel team.

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:19 am
by FUBeAR
purplehorse wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:46 pm
We were TERRIBLE this year. We were completely over-rated. Even with the Conference being “down” I predict more of the same in the fall. I don’t think we will contend and see no reason for optimism at all. We got worse during the season and lost to a 2-9 Citadel team.
Did you have to audition for this role as the host, Purplehorse? Or was submitting a sample of your work sufficient to land the part?


Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Thu Apr 15, 2021 4:13 pm
by gofurman
Sad Din wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:59 pm
MNORM wrote:
Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:02 pm
Sad Din wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:57 pm
fupaladin01 wrote:
Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:05 pm
I spoke to a Furman fan in downtown Chucktown after the game Saturday who turned out to be the father of one of our "rising stars" from a large far away state. He seemed surprised that these young playmakers weren't seen more often on the field this year and brought up the point that many of their younger counterparts were watching from their home high school programs and might get discouraged from coming all the way to Furman just to ride the bench when they could be contributing.
Reminds me of how Chris Forcier, the best athlete on our team at the time, sat on the bench for at least a year. Why our coaches are hesitant to utilize a playmaker when our starters are not making plays is beyond me.
Forcier had a great QB in front of him. Just a big coincidence that he just happened to be the O Coord's son :o
...and apparently Forcier couldn't figure out our complicated playbook :roll:
Yep... all five plays. :lol:
I always hated that - whether Forcier was better or not - the coaches said “couldn’t figure out playbook”. That is an insult to a young mans intelligence - just don’t say that. Say “he needs more reps” or something.

Re: Finally it is over!

PostPosted:Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:15 am
by AllTimeFU
76MrMoto wrote:
Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:28 am
No scholarships cannot be stacked. This was implemented several years ago when Mike B was AD .
I heard this brought up again recently. It seems like this should be revisited. What was the intent? Wouldn’t it be a way to build depth in the roster? I would imagine a good number of of the players fall into this conflict of receiving academic money, but prohibited from receiving athletic money. Why would we tie the hands of the football program like this? Consistently competing at the highest level may require changing some internal policy thinking.